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Any objections? +</I>><i> Yes, I do have one, I think we agreed that tainted was for enforced +</I>><i> patents, or those that would likely be enforced. While the definition is +</I>><i> fuzzy, I doubt that the patent will be enforced, mainly because it is +</I>><i> weak, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Red Hat lawyers are right for a US company, but we are not in the same +</I>><i> position as Red Hat ( ie, we are not in the US, we are not a company +</I>><i> with several millions on the bank account and no one will ever attack us +</I>><i> because we are competing with them ). +</I>Wel, i don't understand this. Last time we talked about patents +in the nonfree+tainted discussions, concensus seemed to be that +even if patents don't apply here (europe), we need to respect them. +So do we or don't we? + +IIUC you suggest that cairo-dock* stays where it is? +><i> For the icons, what is the problem exactly, ie what icons are +</I>><i> copyrighted ? +</I>Only linked the ml thread for the icons for reference. It is not said +which are trademarked (and more important by whom) i guess it could +be seen as a derivated work to the original lemmings game from DMA design. +But as the game pingus is existing, and has not been sued, +i don't think they have a valid point there. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="009446.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] move cairo-dock to tainted because of trademark/patent issues +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="009453.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] move cairo-dock to tainted because of trademark/patent issues +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#9448">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#9448">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#9448">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#9448">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |