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An "update release", meaning a installation DVD with current status. +</I>>><i> The benefit for new installations is the current state of a stable +</I>>><i> release. The downside: the installation only holds part of the +</I>>><i> software. Many (or even most) users will install additional packages +</I>>><i> from the repos after installation. This will not change, and people +</I>>><i> who want to update their existing system will still need to get +</I>>><i> updates for all installed packages which are not on the installation +</I>>><i> DVD. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't think this is feasible, too much QA required. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What we could do instead, is having the installer install the updates +</I>><i> directly, instead of afterwards, this would mean that the installation time +</I>><i> drops. the big disadvantage of this is the amount downloaded packages, but +</I>><i> that's where point 2 comes in, IF we allow this sort of thing in the +</I>><i> installer. +</I> +The problem is that many wifi connections are not working at this time +(experienced this myself several times on different machines). So this +is only an option for cable connected machines. +It may be an option if you have such a DVD I was talking about in +point 2 - somewhere at the start of the install process you can add an +additional medium. If a newer package is on the update DVD (or USB key +or external harddisk) the installer should take this instead of the +package from the installer DVD) should work with an update DVD or USB +key. It will not reduce the download but the overall system setup time +(as you wrote). +Of course, if you have networking at that time, you could use a server +with an update repo (especially in a multi-machine environment) + +>><i> 2. A DVD with updates +</I>>><i> This DVD may present a benefit for people with small bandwidth or in +</I>>><i> case of a multiple machine environment. Although, in such a case I'd +</I>>><i> prefer a local repository with nightly sync. A DVD with all updates is +</I>>><i> only a snapshot of one moment in the release's life, part of it may be +</I>>><i> outdated next day or week. So, 2 weeks later we have the same +</I>>><i> questions as today. I don't think that Mageia should offer this, not +</I>>><i> talking about the fact that everybody can do this (at the time which +</I>>><i> suits himself) without much knowledge. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> A DVD with updates is a nice idea for a local community where somebody +</I>>><i> has enough bandwidth to host a local repo (or even mirror) and can +</I>>><i> hand out update snapshots on request for people with small bandwidth.. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ah, i see your point, you mean that this could be done on-demand. yes, that's +</I>><i> good enough for me, no need to do this from mageia itself. +</I> +Of course we could provide guidelines / help / documentation for this +case to make it an easy job for your average Joe. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="009344.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating a new install is too long... +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="009349.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating a new install is too long... +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#9348">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#9348">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#9348">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#9348">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |