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Remember that a lot of people have a slow link to +</I>>><i> internet. Mandriva did such updated releases which all work better than +</I>>><i> the original, improving the confidence in the distro. +</I>>><i> Today, a woman who has installed Mageia alone and for the first time, said +</I>>><i> me that update is so much long that she thought the distro was broken. +</I>><i> [...] +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If we were to use the updates directly when installing (ie: not install first +</I>><i> then update, but use updated packages at install time), we could even say, +</I>><i> have an "Update CD/DVD", which just contains the packages in question and use +</I>><i> that instead of eg: mirrors... +</I> +How is a download of a 600MB iso different from installing 600MB of +updates via net? More, usually you will not need all updates, only +updates of installed packages. + +><i> This would effectively solve the problem even when not rereleasing mageia. It's +</I>><i> true that Mandriva did .0 and .1 but they also had yearly release and not +</I>><i> 9months... +</I> +The .0 and .1 versions were always releases of their own. It was +planned at some point in time to keep core packages for 12 months and +just update userland packages in the .1-release. But that was never +really carried through. Actually Mandriva did not release any "update +releases" before 2010 (with exceptions). Until 2010.1 Mandriva had a +6-months release cycle, 2010.2 was the first real "update release" +(out of necessity because they could not provide a real release at +that time of changes). + +One visible proof is: the .0 and .1 versions had their own complete, +while 2010.2 just links to 2010.1 repos. + +The exceptions I mentioned above came in 2 cases where the normal +release had critical bugs (driver for LG dvd drives, beta version of +x-server). These update-releases did not get a different version, they +did not use a new repo. + +As for update releases in general, I surely would like to see them. +But I'm totally sure that there is no manpower available for that, not +before Mageia 2 (all readers are invited to prove me wrong!). But I +also see the option for local communities to make snapshots and send +them to people with small bandwidth. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="009331.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating a new install is too long... +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="009342.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating a new install is too long... +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#9341">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#9341">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#9341">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#9341">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |