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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Wed Nov 2 01:05:39 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Johnny A. Solbu a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Tuesday 01 November 2011 13:24, Michael Scherer wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I suggest to re-read the other mails of the thread, especially the one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> where I give this url :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.spinics.net/lists/fedora-devel/msg158642.html">http://www.spinics.net/lists/fedora-devel/msg158642.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have read the entire thread on the Fedora list, every message, including that specific message, and I have done the same for this thread here and my question is not answered.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I'll ask again: what substantial benefit do I get by having / and usr on the same filesystem / partition?
+</I>&gt;<i> I can agree to some extend on moving /*bin and co. to /usr, But what is the benefit on requireing /usr NOT to be a separate filesystem?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Judging by this thread and the Fedora thread I am not alone on having seriosus doubts on this issiue.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ( PS: please try to not insult others with saying thing like &quot;most
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> stupid thing ever performed&quot; ).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm sorry if someone feel trampled upon, but when I see something which I really do think is stupid and idiotic, I reserve the right to say so. If someone can't handle that, tough luck!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note: I am not, nor have I called anyone stupid or an idiot. I am calling this filesystem requirement change stupid and idiotic. There's a difference. :-)=
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+No offense intended, but you don't see a slight advantage of not having
+to mount a separate partition, and of sharing the space available on the
+otherwise 2 separate partitions, particularly if the disk space is
+somewhat limited ?
+
+Since you have read the reference, you didn't notice that the option of
+separate partitions is _not_ precluded ?
+ From what I understand, having separate partitions wouldn't be
+essentially (if at all) any more complicated than it is already.
+
+Historically, I would imagine that having separate /usr (and other)
+partitions was probably more driven by limitations of disk space and
+performance problems than anything else. (/home being an exception.)
+
+However if one has / and /usr on the same partition, combining /bin,
+/sbin, /usr/bin and /usr/sbin would certainly be a lot simpler than it
+is now.
+
+I never could understand why the complication of separate /bin and
+/sbin, and never appreciated the gymnastics of different commands with
+the same name to handle root/non-root permissions for certain commands.
+
+To me, avoiding unnecessary complication by design is a big plus.
+
+Regards :-)
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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