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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 29 juin 2011 &#224; 10:56 +0200, Angelo Naselli a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> mercoled&#236; 29 giugno 2011 alle 00:23, andre999 ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; A leaf package is a package that is not required by any other package.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But leaf packages will always require something else.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If B requires A, then A is not a leaf package, even though B could be.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; When backporting B, we test to make sure that it works with release A.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Obviously it restricts what can be backported, but the trade-off is that backports will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (almost always) work, and they won't break anything.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well my point is i often backport something for my job (for the most
+</I>&gt;<i> commoncpp2 now, ucommon in future), and since they are libraries i can fall
+</I>&gt;<i> in errors. I always tested before backporting though, and i haven't had any problems
+</I>&gt;<i> upgrading, but that's me and i could have been lucky.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If we can accept some exceptions from time to time, but proved (bug open, testing
+</I>&gt;<i> and updates/backports etc) i can think to have mageia not only at home or in a virtual
+</I>&gt;<i> box. Otherwise i can't see the need of backports, for me of course.
+</I>
+If we start to add exception while we do not even have started to agree
+on the general case, we are never gonna go anywhere :)
+
+I have the impression that everybody want to be able at the same time to
+backport anything, and yet expect to have the same level of support and
+quality, and without using any more ressources.
+
+Technically, anything could be backported with proper tests. After all,
+that's roughly the process we use for cauldron ( ie, take a new version
+of software, compile it on the distribution, and build later others
+software against that ).
+
+Every software have someone interested, from low level like kernel
+( backported on kernel-linus, asked by people as seen on MIB ), or gcc
+( gcc 4.6 being my main motivation for keeping a cooker installation )
+to higher level like gajim or midori. The only thing that no one would
+be interested is stuff that do not move ( at, linpng, etc ), ie
+everything were there is no new features, and working fine. And even,
+people could want to have a new feature, such as systemd, etc.
+
+So in the end, if we want to satisfy everybody, the answer is to have no
+policy forbidding anything and just say &quot;do proper amount of QA&quot;. That's
+fine by me ( especially since I do not use backports ), but we have to
+agree on that.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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