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This has to be taken into account here. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > When a policy is found it has to be communicated very well, especially +</I>>><i> > if that policy means that the user can not have foo-1.1 in his stable +</I>>><i> > Mageia 1. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > This is important because former Mandriva users were used to get +</I>>><i> > almost all new versions backported, if not officially then in 3rd +</I>>><i> > party repos like MIB or MUD. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > -- +</I>>><i> > wobo +</I>>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> As wobo mentioned, people like latest and greatest software. I think, +</I>>><i> except a few users will use unofficial 3rd party repos to get latest +</I>>><i> software. While i was maintaining MVT (Mandriva Turkiye) repository, +</I>>><i> our users asked for GNOME 2.32 while Mandriva have GNOME 2.30 on +</I>>><i> official release. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And others people mentioned that people want also stable software and do +</I>><i> not want changes. But as I said, what people want is not as important +</I>><i> than what we can do, and so the decision is in the end of those that do +</I>><i> the work rather than what people want, because if no one does the work, +</I>><i> nothing happen. +</I> +Well, in principle this is correct, not in this case as I have +explained as a very common example. You can decide whatever you want, +if a user wants a certain package and his friend will pack it for him +and puts it up on a server, publishing the existence - then you will +see what happens. You know by experience how popular such 3rd-party +repos can become (see MIB, MUD), just because somebody had a different +view than the official view. +In short: no matter what is more important or not, you have to find a +compromise between the (understandable) search for optimal workflow, +security on one side and the real world of the users on the other. I +think, the key here is non-technical communication of the +circumstances, like "why we can't have foo 1.2 as backport from +Cauldron to Mageia 1". + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006036.html">[Mageia-dev] Update of backport, policy proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006042.html">[Mageia-dev] Update of backport, policy proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6041">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6041">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6041">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6041">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |