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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 26 juin 2011 &#224; 11:43 +0200, Daniel Kreuter a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:58 AM, atilla ontas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi. I'm following this threat from the very beginning. While reading,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i feel i'm reading a Mandriva Cooker mailing list posts. As a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; community distro, why Mageia developers still think like a Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; employee? Why backports and why so many policies, like a commercial
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; enterprise distro? I mean, Mageia do not have paid developers to work
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on packages all the time. Also Mageia do not have so many packagers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; like Fedora or Ubuntu, So, why make so many things so hard?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As wobo mentioned, people like latest and greatest software. I think,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; except a few users will use unofficial 3rd party repos to get latest
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; software. While i was maintaining MVT (Mandriva Turkiye) repository,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; our users asked for GNOME 2.32 while Mandriva have GNOME 2.30 on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; official release.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Personally i always hate the backports structure and policy. It
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; confuses minds. Why Mageia need a backports repo, i really do not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; understand. Stability and bug free releases are of course a must. But
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it needs developers dedicated to work, almost paid developers. If a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; software do not related with core system, like vlc, it should included
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; updates repo. Let upstream fix bugs and security issues. If a packager
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; catchs a bug he should send a patch to upstream and wait for a new
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; release. Otherwise, it is not packaging it is coding, which many
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; potential packgers will avoid to contribute.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> +1 I also see no usage of backports. I'm someone quite new to
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva/Mageia so I wouldn't know what backports are for (Ubuntu has
+</I>&gt;<i> nothing like this, Fedora too) so why backport?
+</I>
+It was already explained why in another thread, and this was also
+answered in the various thread about mirror layout, on the Mandriva page
+about it on the wiki, on the mailling list at that time, and on various
+others documentation sources.
+
+I really do not have the luxury to explain from scratch everything, so
+please look at the archive of the ml.
+
+And speaking of Ubuntu, there is :
+<A HREF="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports</A>
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+( or <A HREF="http://wiki.debian.org/Backports">http://wiki.debian.org/Backports</A> for Debian, or the proposal ( that
+stalled, as said in another thread ) for Fedora :
+<A HREF="https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/515">https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/515</A> , due to
+<A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Stable_release_updates_vision">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Stable_release_updates_vision</A> )
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+Michael Scherer
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