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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Update of backport, policy proposal</H1>
+ <B>Daniel Kreuter</B>
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+ <I>Sun Jun 26 11:43:12 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:58 AM, atilla ontas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hi. I'm following this threat from the very beginning. While reading,
+</I>&gt;<i> i feel i'm reading a Mandriva Cooker mailing list posts. As a
+</I>&gt;<i> community distro, why Mageia developers still think like a Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> employee? Why backports and why so many policies, like a commercial
+</I>&gt;<i> enterprise distro? I mean, Mageia do not have paid developers to work
+</I>&gt;<i> on packages all the time. Also Mageia do not have so many packagers
+</I>&gt;<i> like Fedora or Ubuntu, So, why make so many things so hard?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As wobo mentioned, people like latest and greatest software. I think,
+</I>&gt;<i> except a few users will use unofficial 3rd party repos to get latest
+</I>&gt;<i> software. While i was maintaining MVT (Mandriva Turkiye) repository,
+</I>&gt;<i> our users asked for GNOME 2.32 while Mandriva have GNOME 2.30 on
+</I>&gt;<i> official release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Personally i always hate the backports structure and policy. It
+</I>&gt;<i> confuses minds. Why Mageia need a backports repo, i really do not
+</I>&gt;<i> understand. Stability and bug free releases are of course a must. But
+</I>&gt;<i> it needs developers dedicated to work, almost paid developers. If a
+</I>&gt;<i> software do not related with core system, like vlc, it should included
+</I>&gt;<i> updates repo. Let upstream fix bugs and security issues. If a packager
+</I>&gt;<i> catchs a bug he should send a patch to upstream and wait for a new
+</I>&gt;<i> release. Otherwise, it is not packaging it is coding, which many
+</I>&gt;<i> potential packgers will avoid to contribute.
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>+1 I also see no usage of backports. I'm someone quite new to
+Mandriva/Mageia so I wouldn't know what backports are for (Ubuntu has
+nothing like this, Fedora too) so why backport?
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+&gt;<i> Look at Debian and Arch Linux who haven't any paid developers but
+</I>&gt;<i> community distros. Stable Debian releases provide software from a
+</I>&gt;<i> century ago for the sake of stability. Arch provides latest software
+</I>&gt;<i> including core system and occaionally have breakages. I think Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> should be between two of them. Release latest software in updates for
+</I>&gt;<i> non core system and libs, keep core system stable. Remove this
+</I>&gt;<i> backports thingy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My 2 cents...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>This approach looks quite good, but the new software should be tested quite
+good so the system will not break. Sure core system won't break with this
+approach but what about the other software?
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+Mit freundlichen Gr&#252;&#223;en
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+Greetings
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