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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 24 juin 2011 &#224; 16:20 -0400, andre999 a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; so :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - cannot be backported if this is not a leaf package, will be revised later
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - cannot be backported if the maintainer say &quot;no&quot;, but we assume he say &quot;yes&quot; by default
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - cannot be backported if it impact the dependency tree too much ( Obsoletes, Provides, etc )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - cannot be backported if the package was just created and is thus basically untested in cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What about corner cases where a potential backport is incompatible with changes introduced in
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron ? Should we leave such packages to third parties ? (I would tend to say yes.)
+</I>
+Give a more precise example.
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+&gt;<i> &gt; - must not prevent upgrade to next release
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can see where a backport could be a more recent version than in cauldron for the moment. Since
+</I>&gt;<i> that could make the newer version available to users somewhat sooner. Although by release,
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron should have at least as recent a version. Or should we prohibit this ?
+</I>&gt;<i> (I'm thinking of cases where more recent versions are expected for cauldron before release.)
+</I>
+If we decide to use the spec from cauldron on stable ( as it seems to be
+the sanest way of doing it ), the only way to have a newer version in
+stable than in cauldron would be to have the build broken on cauldron.
+
+If we tolerate this, and if no one fix ( because the person that did the
+upgrade only care about stable release ), we have a broken build.
+
+So forcing the build to be correct on cauldron would be a stronger
+incentive to fix. It seems more desirable to prevent a backport if the
+price to pay is to have a potentially broken cauldron package.
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+&gt;<i> &gt; - strict requires between backported packages, in order to make sure they can be cherrypicked ( ie, someone enable backports, install, remove backports )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It would be best if one can select individual backports without activating the backports
+</I>&gt;<i> repositories, as is now the case.
+</I>&gt;<i> So only the brave (wanting all backports) need activate the backports repositories.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Agree with everything, except as noted.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It might be useful to list major packages that should never be backported.
+</I>&gt;<i> I like the idea of tagging backports in the package name, as well as in the package database.
+</I>
+We cannot tag in the packages database. Yum do it with a separate sqlite
+file, afaik.
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+And tagging in the package name would be quite tricky to do if we need
+to play with %mkrel and release.
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+--
+Michael Scherer
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