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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Firefox 5</H1>
+ <B>Buchan Milne</B>
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+ <I>Fri Jun 24 16:18:21 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Friday, 24 June 2011 03:35:08 David W. Hodgins wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Just today, in alt.os.linux.mandriva, there was a user complaining that
+</I>&gt;<i> firefox 4 wasn't available. When it was pointed out that it's been
+</I>&gt;<i> in backports for quite a while, the response was that using backports
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;broke&quot; his system.
+</I>
+Where is his bug report?
+
+Would QA by the QA team have avoided the problem?
+
+(And, the idea with Backports was IMHO that it should not be enabled in the
+configuration, but used on a case-by-case basis - which was easier once
+rpmdrake allowed it).
+
+&gt;<i> Hopefully Mageia backports won't get that type
+</I>&gt;<i> of reputation. One way to help with that, is to ensure that all
+</I>&gt;<i> backports at least have some qa testing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I understand your concerns.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My proposal is to use the backports testing, and see if the qa team
+</I>&gt;<i> can keep up. If not, having the package pushed directly from cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> to backports, or release/updates could be opened up later. Nothing
+</I>&gt;<i> is being fixed in stone here.
+</I>
+In Mandriva, I typically *tested* (minimally) anything I pushed to backports,
+before I pushed it.
+
+But, I certainly don't think having the QA team involved would have provided
+much value.
+
+There was one instance for OpenLDAP where a non-OpenLDAP-maintainer pushed the
+cooker package to backports without testing, which did create a problem for
+some users :-(.
+
+IMHO, *if* we want to have QA, it should be the onus of users who wanted the
+backports, and not require any contributor action. E.g. an automatic system
+based on votes (e.g. require positive feedback from 80% of at least 20 users
+who have rated a package to promote a package from backports_testing to
+backports).
+
+Regards,
+Buchan
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