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You could ensure that it is always up to date, and that it +</I>>><i> works properly, and is properly supported. (The packager is a key player in support.) Just +</I>>><i> because it is called a backport doesn't mean that it won't work. The packager mentoring +</I>>><i> program will help you get started :) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> -- André +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, first of all, I never liked the _concept_ of backports. Too many repositories, too complex +</I>><i> tree already. One of the reasons I wasn't very fond of Mandriva (the other reason being the +</I>><i> IaOra theme(s).) +</I> +As Stormi suggested, you could consider backports as "feature updates". (Whether or not the +repository names change.) +There is a certain logic for having separate backport repositories. +It is normal to put more focus on security updates and bug fixes, than introducing new features. +The former could also be considered release blockers, but never backports. +So QA focuses on security updates and bug fixes. +Also, Mandriva provided corporate support for the former, but not backports. Of course this +concept doesn't apply to a volonteer community distro such as Mageia. +Mageia policy is inherited from Mandriva, but is evidently subject to changes. +In terms of support, the nature of support by Mageia is yet to be defined, but it is starting to be +discussed. + +><i> From the NON-rolling distros, Fedora is arguably the only one who tries to bring newer versions +</I>><i> of a number of applications throughout its 12+1 months lifecycle. w/o using backports. My +</I>><i> opinion is that, as long as system libraries are _not_ upgraded, many other packages +</I>><i> (applications!) should be updated as appropriate. Otherwise, the result would be that Windows +</I>><i> users would have more freedom and ease in decided what version of the [multi-platform +</I>><i> open-source] applications to use than Linux users! (Except, of course, the users of +</I>><i> rolling-release distros, and except for users of unstable/rawhide/cooker/cauldron...) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I know, I should probably be using Fedora as long as _some_ of their principles suit my views +</I>><i> much more than Mageia does or than Mandriva did. However, Fedora lacks something like Mandriva +</I>><i> Control Center, and yum is millions of times slower than urpmi, therefore... +</I> +I appreciate the same strengths inherited by Mageia. + +><i> Not to mention that most of the best people Mandriva had are now with Mageia, which makes this +</I>><i> distro hard to ignore... (Je crois qu'on appelle cela zugzwang...) +</I> +I agree totally. Mageia is the best of the old Mandriva. + +So what I propose is that you seriously consider packaging your application for Mageia. +We find a mentor for you to apprentice with, to familiarise you with the process. +In choosing a mentor, it would help to find someone in the same time zone. +You're in Canada ? What time zone ? +(I'd offer to mentor you myself, being also in Canada, but I'm not yet a full packager.) +When I started, I was able to package my favorite application to start with, hopefully you can do +the same, if it's not too complicated. (Since you indicate that it doesn't have dependancies +to/from other packages, I suspect that it would be relatively straight-forward.) +Once you have started packaging, you have a better chance to influence Mageia policy, if you still +think that it should be changed. +But in any case you would be able to ensure that your package is available on Mageia, and is always +up to date. +And of course, ensure that it works properly. + +So, isn't it worth a try ? :) +><i> +</I>><i> R-C +</I> +-- +André +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005753.html">[Mageia-dev] Question about backports: calibre (bug 1659) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005794.html">[Mageia-dev] Question about backports: calibre (bug 1659) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5790">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5790">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5790">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5790">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |