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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+ <I>Wed Jun 15 01:17:04 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le mardi 14 juin 2011 &#224; 18:17 +0200, Antoine Pitrou a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:09:23 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - gmane is clumsy, slow - my tests last September/October reveilled
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that with an active list you see 2 replies in the list before the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; initial mail is available in gmane. So, people using gmane for posting
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; will always be behind and may destroy a thread or reply to already
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; obsolete points. There were also missing mails in the middle of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; threads which made it unusable for me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My experience with gmane is different. Yes it lags a bit but usually by
+</I>&gt;<i> a couple of minutes. Unless you want to use your mailing-list as some
+</I>&gt;<i> kind of real-time communication channel (you shouldn't ;-)), this is ok.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> gmane's Web UI is not great but its NNTP gateway, OTOH, works fine for
+</I>&gt;<i> me, both for reading and posting, using claws-mail as my NNTP client.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And the fact that it doesn't ask you to sign for any kind of account is
+</I>&gt;<i> really nice.
+</I>
+For the record, I looked at nntp servers when we started the project as
+it seemed promising and was used by students in a school near my home.
+But from a sysadmin point of view, there isn't much choice :
+- there is inn, and some friends told me scary stories about it
+- cyrus support nntpd but I didn't understood to what extend
+- there is various half finished servers on freshmeat
+- there is proprietary servers ( used by giganews, etc )
+- there is lots of libraries
+- there is server that do not fullfill our need ( leafnode )
+
+So while it would help a lot ( as you can subscribe to lists using a
+rich interface without much hassle, get older mails, and unsubscribe at
+will ), it was not easy to do.
+--
+Michael Scherer
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