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If we +</I>><i> officially support and care for backports, than this is a different case. +</I> +Agreed on this. + +>><i> And as I said in another mail, if people want to follow arch linux and +</I>>><i> do a better job, maybe they should start to explain what are the weak +</I>>><i> points of the distribution and then do proposal on stuff that can be +</I>>><i> done better instead of asking to copy cat hoping this would be better. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't want a full rolling release, because of the listed disadvantages. +</I>><i> So, if you ask me what is "wrong" with Arch, I would say: +</I>><i> * due to the rolling release, it's nearly vanilla. This doesn't match +</I>><i> requirements of Mageia +</I>><i> * no innovations (because of vanilla) +</I>><i> * a rolling core system has a negative correlation with it's stability +</I>><i> * heavy work load +</I>><i> * ... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, I don't ask for a copy of Arch nor any other distribution. I asked +</I>><i> (although it wasn't my idea) for something new. An compromise: a light +</I>><i> rolling release. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Further lack of clarity? +</I> +So basically what people call a "light" rolling release in this thread +is a rolling release where packages are tested and integrated? And +what you call a (non-light) rolling release is a development rolling +release (cooker, cauldron…) where packages are just dropped without +prior security checked as fast as they are made available by their +respective authors? + +If so, I would say, yeah obviously "light" (I find this naming quite +paradoxical then) is the kind of rolling I would like. And that's not +that new, that's the kind of rolling release in Gentoo (which I found +much more stable than my years of experience in Mandriva, and also +more peaceful as I don't have to fear the big update every 6 months +which will definitely break a lot of small stuffs everywhere at once). + +Also yes, I guess this could be simulated using the current backport +system becoming a supported repo (with package getting appropriately +tested and the right integration into the distribution done). I don't +say this is the ideal system, but that can be a first step in the +evolution. +As Anne Nicolas said, this may be only a matter of rewriting the policy. +Yet if doing so, I think it would still need abstraction on UI side at +least. User should not have to deal and even understand concept as +backport, or whatever. On the user point of view, all one should care +is knowing a newer version, which is supposed tested and approved, is +available. + +Jehan +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005735.html">[Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005646.html">[Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5645">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5645">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5645">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5645">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |