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I have to read communities from several updateam +projects and I get as annoyed about forums as I do about people posting +in HTML on mailing lists. + +Forums are disjoint and individually styled. When you are jumping from +one project to another to get through your daily grind of information, +it is exceptionally annoying to have to adjust your eyes and the way you +operate to cope with the styles, features, login system etc. of each +individual forums (forii, forum?). + +I want the information from these 30 or so projects I'm involved in to +be available to me in one place, not have a series of inconvenient +bookmarks and a procedure of checking one, then the next then the one +after that until I've done the rounds (and of course repeating that +procedure throughout the day if I want to see any new topics!). It's +much less time consuming to have a single UI and central store of +information in which I can look. + +Perhaps if all the forums could be aggregated into one handy feed per +project and stripped of all their styling I could agree, but then that +would just be reinventing mailing lists! + +It's all too easy to get lured by the guise of a forum-based system when +you only follow a couple of projects, but please consider those of us +who have several projects to follow. + + + +As for the server traffic argument, this is what NNTP is for and GMane +does an excellent service of collecting and aggregating mailing list +from most open source projects. When you look at the size of their feeds +you'll realise just how many projects are run on mailing lists. + + +Just like IRC, the fresh faced and full of wonder souls (not to mention +many other types of souls too, I'm just picking on one demographic that +suggests it more often than others!) often comment about how some more +"modern" system is more appropriate for interaction. I don't dispute the +lower barrier of entry for forums, and they can be a good way to engage +with a less technical audience, but I will never be able to get involved +in them (except when people specifically ask me to comment on topics) as +it's just far too much of an intrusion in my daily grind. + + +Build a nice forum to mail gateway (and vice versa) and it would likely +please everyone. Technology can solve this! + +I won't comment again on this topic (at least on this thread!). + +Col + + + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>] +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>] + PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>] + Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>] +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005613.html">[Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005703.html">[Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5627">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5627">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5627">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5627">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |