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Today is your lucky day, because +</I>>>><i> there's a job that's available and can be really useful and interesting: +</I>>>><i> coordinating the packagers mentoring program. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> You know that one key point of success for Mageia is in the ability to +</I>>>><i> welcome new packagers. The better we will be at it, the better the +</I>>>><i> distro will be. The packagers mentoring program has been created for +</I>>>><i> that reason and several packagers have been or are being mentored. But +</I>>>><i> we have some difficulty knowing who is being mentored by who and who +</I>>>><i> hasn't found a mentor. And we need also to find more mentors and more +</I>>>><i> apprentices. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> During a packagers weekly meeting, misc invited us to read the following +</I>>>><i> article about mentoring programs in open-source projects: +</I>>>><i> <A HREF="http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/05/31/effective-mentoring-programs/">http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/05/31/effective-mentoring-programs/</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Very interesting, especially many of the comments. +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I invite those who haven't read it yet, to read it. I'll quote one of the +</I>>>><i> mentoring best practices that were given: "In bigger projects, keeping +</I>>>><i> track of who is a mentor, and who is mentoring who, and inviting new +</I>>>><i> mentors, and ensuring that no-one falls through the cracks when a mentor +</I>>>><i> gets too busy, is a job of itself." +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I'm looking for someone who could fill that "job". +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Description of the job: +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> - keep track of: +</I>>>><i> -- who's being mentored by who, how well it's going +</I>>>><i> -- who needs a mentor and hasn't found one yet (this is one of the most +</I>>>><i> important parts: no volunteer must be forgotten, volunteers are too +</I>>>><i> precious !) +</I>>>><i> -- who can mentor more apprentices (and sometimes convince packagers to +</I>>>><i> become mentors or accept one more apprentice) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> - be available for questions from apprentices or mentors, by mail, and if +</I>>>><i> possible, to be present on the IRC channel #mageia-mentoring on freenode +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> - help mentors with gathering "junior tasks" (bugzilla is a never empty +</I>>>><i> reserve that can be used for that. Maybe ask the bug triage team to help +</I>>>><i> identify such tasks. Maybe a "junior task" keyword in bugzilla would do +</I>>>><i> the trick) +</I>>>><i> -- small bugs to fix +</I>>>><i> -- new small packages to import in the distribution +</I>>>><i> -- backports +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> - promote mentoring (empower users into contributers. Working with the +</I>>>><i> marketing team would be great I think): +</I>>>><i> -- make the mentoring program known (MLs, forums, web, etc.) +</I>>>><i> -- look for new apprentices +</I>>>><i> -- look for new mentors +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Some useful skills: +</I>>>><i> - be autonomous (ie no need to check that you're doing the work) +</I>>>><i> - good written english (communication is very important in this job) +</I>>>><i> - knowledge about packaging is a plus but not mandatory (the key aspects +</I>>>><i> can be taught to you) +</I>>>><i> - being or having been a mentor, or having been mentored would be a plus, +</I>>>><i> but not mandatory +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> More information about the job: +</I>>>><i> - does not require a big amount of work, but real committment to the task +</I>>>><i> and regularity +</I>>>><i> - remember that you have a coordination role, not an authoritative role. +</I>>>><i> The difference in that is that you're not here to give orders but to +</I>>>><i> facilitate the mentoring program. +</I>>>><i> - you don't have to be alone to do this job if it's too much for one +</I>>>><i> person: you can find other helpful people wanting to help you if needed +</I>>>><i> and rely on the other teams (but finding them *is* part of your job ;) +</I>>>><i> ). +</I>>>><i> - this "job offer" concerns everything that revolves around the +</I>>>><i> mentoring of new packagers, but if it's successful maybe other teams can +</I>>>><i> follow the same approach (i18n, QA, etc... ). +</I>>>><i> - depending on your level of confidence, experience and will, you could +</I>>>><i> be helped in your work. Maybe someone from the council can supervise and +</I>>>><i> help you at least at the beginning; or, if no one steps up, I can help +</I>>>><i> you bootstrap and organize your new "job". +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> So, who's in? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> That is an excellent idea, a mentoring program coordinator. +</I>>><i> I've had some thoughts along those lines for some time. +</I>>><i> I'd be glad to contribute, especially via email and editing the wiki, where +</I>>><i> I could almost always respond the same day. +</I>>><i> But my time zone availability (generally after 22h utc) puts me at a +</I>>><i> disadvantage for irc communications and meetings. +</I>>><i> (But as part of a coordinating team, that should work well.) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Maintaining the mentor/apprentice database, as Kharec suggested, is to me a +</I>>><i> key part of the role. Information such as mentors available, and their +</I>>><i> strengths/focus, usual time zones available, communication modes +</I>>><i> preferred, languages spoken, and current apprentices, Would-be apprentices +</I>>><i> should have similar information listed. +</I>>><i> Not much different from the information currently in variously wiki pages, +</I>>><i> but maintained by the coordinator in one location. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> <aside> +</I>>><i> One thing that occurred to me is that there is no imperative that mentoring +</I>>><i> process happens only in English. If an apprentice is more comfortable in +</I>>><i> another language, and they find a mentor speaking that language, why not ? +</I>>><i> Sure, it is useful to have basic English knowledge, but it is evident +</I>>><i> that many (if not most) contributors speak English as a second language. +</I>>><i> </aside> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Experience packaging, either as a mentor or apprentice is highly +</I>>><i> recommended in my view, at least for the key person. (My experience is as +</I>>><i> a apprentice with Shikamaru -- an excellent mentor, btw -- and my time +</I>>><i> zone availability is probably why I haven't officially completed the +</I>>><i> process.) Also some programming experience could be useful. (I imagine +</I>>><i> that most candidates would have that.) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> But also mentoring can apply to other things than packaging. So maybe we +</I>>><i> should give a broader scope to the mentoring coordinator job ? +</I>>><i> Including bugteam, QA, as well as packaging. +</I>>><i> That would make it more useful, as well as more interesting. +</I>>><i> (I would be very interested in contributing to something like that.) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> So what does everyone think ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks for the input, but there's one point that's still unclear to me : do +</I>><i> you candidate for the job ? :p +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (the timezone question can be a problem, but not necessarily a blocking one) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Samuel +</I> +Yes :) +It's an important task, and I think I would do it well. +With my (albeit somewhat limited) packaging experience and getting to better know the community, I +have a much better understanding of the whole Mageia development process than I did even a few +months ago. And how this fits in. + +-- +André +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005513.html">[Mageia-dev] "Job offer" : mentoring program coordinator +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005819.html">[Mageia-dev] "Job offer" : mentoring program coordinator +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5586">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5586">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5586">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5586">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |