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How to backport?</H1> + <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Missing%20packages%20in%20Mageia%201.%20How%20to%20backport%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201106111314.29979.stormi%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?">stormi at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 11 13:14:29 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005398.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005404.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. 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A guideline for bug reporters is (or +</I>><i> should be) "make sure you installed the latest updates". What would be the +</I>><i> equivalent for backports? I'm afraid it should be "if you installed any +</I>><i> backports, make sure you installed all backports that are relevant for +</I>><i> your system". If someone has a problem with any other combination, the bug +</I>><i> report might be rejected. How would QA even work when only selected +</I>><i> packages are upgraded from backports, or integration testing: +</I>><i> integration with what? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So the only combinations we can support are: +</I>><i> - release + updates +</I>><i> - release + updates + backports +</I>><i> +</I>><i> More practical: for mga1 I have a VM that I can keep updated. For mga1 +</I>><i> backports I can install another VM with backports enabled. But for bugs +</I>><i> reported with only selected backports installed I suppose I would have to +</I>><i> install a new VM with mga1, update it, and install only those backports - +</I>><i> for each bug report. But maybe I'm missing something, please explain. (: +</I>><i> +</I> +If we suppose that either updates or backports are supported (with a support +level to be defined), the situation is simpler to me : a good backport must +work with all its dependencies coming from updates or release OR it must +explicitly require higher versions, found only in the backports media and so +automatically pulled. + +So I don't think that having picked up only certain backported packages is a +problem for the maintainer's support. Maybe I over-simplified the situation, +but I don't think it will be as complex as you say. + +Samuel +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20110611/976fba78/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005398.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005404.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. 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