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How to backport?</H1> + <B>James Kerr</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Missing%20packages%20in%20Mageia%201.%20How%20to%20backport%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4DF2AE53.4090808%40jkerr82508.free-online.co.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?">jim at jkerr82508.free-online.co.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 11 01:52:51 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005389.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005396.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. 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Using backports is fine +</I>>>>>><i> for experienced users who do know what to install from backports or +</I>>>>>><i> who are capable of facing the consequences. +</I>>>>>><i> If a total newbie asks fort a package in the forums and is pointed to +</I>>>>>><i> backports he is in great danger of wrecking his system by installing +</I>>>>>><i> some new kernel, graphics driver, desktop or whatever, precisely +</I>>>>>><i> because there is no real qa on backports. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> He can also wait for the release. Or he can enable backport just for +</I>>>>><i> the +</I>>>>><i> time needed to install and then disable it. I think rpmdrake have some +</I>>>>><i> stuff for that. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Even though backports are disabled rpmdrake can display a list of +</I>>>><i> available backports. (The sources are automatically updated by +</I>>>><i> mgaonline.) A selected backport can then be installed, without enabling +</I>>>><i> the backports source. (I've just tested this on mdv 2010.0, the only mdv +</I>>>><i> system that I have available.) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I've just realised there is a potential problem with this. Because +</I>>><i> Mageia has /backports_testing repo's (mdv does not) packages from +</I>>><i> /backports_testing may also be displayed. Mgaonline is updating those +</I>>><i> sources. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Jim +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That was a bug in rpmdrake. +</I>><i> If you had updated the repos with backports media enabled, when the +</I>><i> backports media was subsequently disabled, the previously available +</I>><i> backports packages remained displayed/installable. But new backports +</I>><i> were not added if the repos were updated with backports disabled. There +</I>><i> was the same problem for other media (like non-free). +</I>><i> Otherwise enabling/disabling backports (or any other media) wouldn't +</I>><i> make any sense. +</I>><i> +</I> +It is not a bug, but intended behaviour. When mdkonline/mgaonline is +running it updates backports sources each time it checks for updates. As +I indicated in an earlier email you can see that this is done if you +check /var/log/auth.log. + +The system that I tested on, has never had backports sources enabled and +I was able to install a recent package from a disabled backports source, +by selecting it from Backports, displayed using the first filter in +rpmdrake. + +This facility was set up to allow inexperienced users to selectively +install backports, without enabling the backports sources. + +Jim + + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005389.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005396.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. 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