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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+ <I>Fri Jun 10 18:26:56 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Christiaan Welvaart at 10/06/11 16:34 did gyre and
+gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 04:35:57PM +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 04:15:01PM +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> ....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Seems some distributions misunderstand the need and changed the wiki
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> page. Removing .la files is needed however, otherwise you'll
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> quickly mix
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> distribution installed libraries and self-compiled libraries.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What are you talking about here?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;gnome-shell stuff&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is not gnome-shell, it is jhbuild and doing development (mainly
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> GNOME). Basic GNOME already has ~200 modules.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then why did you quote the webpage instead of saying just that?
+</I>
+Because it was an example. I think most people could appreciate it as
+that and work it out.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So you are really talking only about gnome-shell, which I can't even
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> test because apparently it doesn't work in a VM. It is now packaged,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> so you don't need to build it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nope, I'm talking about doing development using jhbuild. E.g. if you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> want to contribute to GNOME, you'll have to get rid of all the .la
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> files no matter which distribution you use.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A new GNOME does not happen automatically. It requires people to compile
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the Git versions and committing stuff until a tarball is released and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packaged.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Making such development easier would result in a better GNOME, and I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> don't mind if the .la files stay, but prefer if they are removed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think doing software development related to the system you're working
+</I>&gt;<i> on isn't easy. For example jhbuild may not like .la files but if you
+</I>&gt;<i> want to use static libraries supplied by the system, .la files are quite
+</I>&gt;<i> useful AFAIK.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So why did you point to that webpage if it's not related to mageia at
+</I>&gt;<i> all, it's purely a jhbuild problem.
+</I>
+Because it explains the issue and the problem that people would have
+using Mageia for development if the .la files remained.
+
+&gt;<i> If people are using a system with
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome installed to develop gnome, it's not strange they run into
+</I>&gt;<i> problems.
+</I>
+I call shenanigans. I do this kind of stuff all the time. It's easy to
+use a custom prefix (i.e. not /usr) if you select the right configure
+options. It means you get a working system but can also develop the next
+version. I've been doing this kind of stuff for years. The removal of
+the .la files will make this approach much easier.
+
+Col
+
+
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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