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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files</H1>
+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files">olav at vitters.nl
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+ <I>Fri Jun 10 17:09:51 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 04:35:57PM +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 04:15:01PM +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;<A HREF="https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/RemovingLaFiles">https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/RemovingLaFiles</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&quot;... but the dirty hacks that jhbuild plays ...&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;Problems with dirty hacks are NOT a valid reason to remove libtool
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;convenience libraries aka .la files.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Seems you skipped the initial bit, where it explains that the .la has
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;the full path.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What's wrong with those paths? I'm saying the problem is in
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome-shell, not in the .la files.
+</I>
+You snipped the paragraph which explains it.
+
+To repeat: If you link against 1 system lib, the .la files will make it
+link to /usr/lib stuff, instead of the self compiled gtk or anything
+like that. If the .la does not exist (all of them), it links correctly.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;Seems some distributions misunderstand the need and changed the wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;page. Removing .la files is needed however, otherwise you'll quickly mix
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;distribution installed libraries and self-compiled libraries.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;What are you talking about here?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;gnome-shell stuff&gt;
+</I>
+It is not gnome-shell, it is jhbuild and doing development (mainly
+GNOME). Basic GNOME already has ~200 modules.
+
+&gt;<i> So you are really talking only about gnome-shell, which I can't even
+</I>&gt;<i> test because apparently it doesn't work in a VM. It is now packaged,
+</I>&gt;<i> so you don't need to build it.
+</I>
+Nope, I'm talking about doing development using jhbuild. E.g. if you
+want to contribute to GNOME, you'll have to get rid of all the .la
+files no matter which distribution you use.
+
+A new GNOME does not happen automatically. It requires people to compile
+the Git versions and committing stuff until a tarball is released and
+packaged.
+
+Making such development easier would result in a better GNOME, and I
+don't mind if the .la files stay, but prefer if they are removed.
+
+Jhbuild is also used by Wayland and Hildon btw.
+--
+Regards,
+Olav
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