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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3</H1>
+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+ <I>Fri Jun 10 13:55:40 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>2011/6/10 Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 09 juin 2011 &#224; 10:49 +0100, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 09/06/11 10:25 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 2011/6/9 JA Magall&#243;n &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jamagallon at ono.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; No need, Cauldron is Cauldron. The only strange thing is that I had
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; heard on other threads that update to Gnome 3 was being discussed,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; but never realized it had finally agreed on.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Same here, I'm a bit surprised.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We're on the next cycle now. Quite frankly I'd be stunned (and hugely
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> disappointed) if we *didn't* have Gnome 3!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While I have no issue with gnome-shell, I have read enough reports of
+</I>&gt;<i> people not happy with it to know we would head to a 2nd kde 4.0 story.
+</I>&gt;<i> So maybe we could start to learn from the past and discuss with users to
+</I>&gt;<i> explain the update, see why they do not want etc, instead of being
+</I>&gt;<i> purely focused on &quot;it is cauldron, let's update everything&quot;.
+</I>
+I do have a problem with gnome-shell, that is my individual opinion.
+But I also read a lot of discussions among Gnome users where the new
+way of Gnome seems to split the community much more than the KDE3.5 to
+KDE4 change. This has been said already way back when we started to
+get the first requests for Gnome3 in Mageia1. Since that time we
+always told the users that implementing Gnome3 will be subject to
+discussion after the Mageia 1 release.
+
+So I was a bit surprised that this was done kind of automagically
+without any discussion.
+
+Besides this I agree to Michael's suggestion.
+
+--
+wobo
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