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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Sun Jul 24 07:18:44 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Margot a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:44:03 -0400
+</I>&gt;<i> andre999&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andr55 at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello everyone,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> At the last packager's meeting I've been given the task of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gathering ideas of how to measure our resources for supporting
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> releases. Part of this is to see if we have (or will likely have)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the resources for a LTS (long-term support) release.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> These resources will involve QA, testing, packaging updates, etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So we're inviting input - there are probably factors overlooked,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so don't hesitate with your suggestions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please post to this thread, so we have all the suggestions in one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> place.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Before deciding whether we can support a LTS release, we need to
+</I>&gt;<i> look at what users will expect as 'support' for any non-LTS release.
+</I>
+Note that this is off topic, as this thread is about how to measure our
+resources to support releases.
+
+&gt;<i> This is the support that I, as a mere user, would expect:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (a) security&amp; bugfix updates
+</I>&gt;<i> (b) supported backports of popular applications (Firefox,
+</I>&gt;<i> LibreOffice, Thunderbird, Gimp etc.)
+</I>&gt;<i> (c) user support - experienced Mageia users available on mailing
+</I>&gt;<i> lists/forums/IRC giving help and advice to users who have problems.
+</I>
+Ok. (Although I'm not sure about Gimp.)
+
+&gt;<i> And, as many users will not be willing and/or able to upgrade to
+</I>&gt;<i> latest stable Mageia immediately when it is released, I would
+</I>&gt;<i> expect all of that support to continue until next-but-one release -
+</I>&gt;<i> so, support for Mageia 1 until the release of Mageia 3, support for
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2 until release of Mageia 4 etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With our 9-month release cycle, that means that all releases would
+</I>&gt;<i> be supported for 18 months.
+</I>
+If I'm not mistaken, that what we have already decided.
+
+&gt;<i> Is there any need for LTS on top of
+</I>&gt;<i> that? People running servers might think that 18 months is not long
+</I>&gt;<i> enough, but Mageia is not primarily aimed as a server distro and 18
+</I>&gt;<i> months should be plenty for desktop users.
+</I>
+Why would you think that LTS would only be of interest for server use ?
+My experience would indicate the contrary, in most business environments.
+As well as many individual users.
+
+&gt;<i> Bear in mind that many of our brave volunteers will be supporting 3
+</I>&gt;<i> versions of Mageia - current and immediate previous stable, plus
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron - so adding a 4th LTS version might put too much strain on
+</I>&gt;<i> their hardware or on their family life!
+</I>
+Strictly speaking, cauldron is not supported, particularly in terms of your
+definition. (i.e. backports, end user support.)
+It is our development branch, where we expect things to be broken on a regular
+basis, and ordinary end-users are advised to not use.
+However, indeed LTS would be an additional (3rd) version to support.
+
+Note again that this thread is about how to measure our resources to support
+releases.
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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