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We do this quite regularly... the rc's have been pushed in +</I>>><i> cooker and I'm pretty sure cauldron in the past. The fact that this +</I>>><i> is 3.x.x rather 2.6.38 is pretty much a whim of numbering and +</I>>><i> nothing specifically relating to anything "significant" or +</I>>><i> similar. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> And who cares if -latest is updated. Your old kernel is not removed +</I>>><i> and TMB gave you forewarning about it. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This is really one of the lamest complaints ever!!! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Notwithstanding that this is cauldron, not stable, it is _not_ like +</I>><i> an update from 2.6.38.8-desktop-2 to 2.6.38.8-desktop-5 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This is a _major_ kernel update, even if 3.0.0-rc7 is actually +</I>><i> 2.6.40-rc7. +</I> +It is a major version update only in number, not in features. If it is +actually 2.6.40, then it is technically a "micro" update... (version +numbers are major.minor.micro... this is accepted terminology). + +><i> As a matter of fact, while 2.6.38.8 was a _very_ stable kernel, this +</I>><i> one is _not_, +</I> +Perhaps not for you. It's working fine for me. That is a _very_ +subjective statement without _any_ facts. + +><i> The latest _stable_ kernel is 2.6.39.3, not this bloody 2.6.40-rc7, +</I>><i> aka 3.0.0-rc7. +</I> +So? No one said this was a stable kernel anyway! This is a _development_ +distro. You've got to expect this kind of thing. If you don't, you +shouldn't use it and you shouldn't be trolling our *development* mailing +lists with your requests for *stability*! (and regardless of what you +say about not calling "serious people" trolls, your behaviour is classic +troll behaviour and you have done nothing to present yourself as a +serious person other than just saying you are. This is something you +have to earn by your actions, not state and expect people to accept). + +><i> And I don't remember of any "forewarning". +</I> +Then you obviously don't read the development list, nor read the list of +packages you are installing. This is therefore entirely your own fault. + +><i> Also, even in Cauldron, shouldn't it have stayed for more time in +</I>><i> testing? +</I> +Cauldron is for testing. That's the whole point of it? This is exactly +what's happening now. You are under a massive miscomprehension me thinks. + +><i> Finally, when you upgrade a regular package (say, LibreOffice, which +</I>><i> was recently updated) to a new version, it is extremely unlikely that +</I>><i> you would update it to a Beta/RC one, even in Cauldron. Then why your +</I>><i> standards are _lower_ when comes to the kernel -- the most important +</I>><i> component of all?!?!? +</I> +RC and beta versions will hit cauldron frequently when the maintainer +feels it is the right thing to do. Perhaps the maintainer is an upstream +developer too and is using cauldron to get wider feedback (I'll be doing +this soon for PulseAudio for example). RC and even beta versions hit +cooker all the time and this isn't going to be any different here. +You're making statements with no basis in reality here. + + + +><i> I am using Mageia because it's one of the best distros out there. I +</I>><i> am using Cauldron because I need newer stuff -- and I'm also building +</I>><i> some even newer packages every now and then, as I need them. +</I> +If you are using Cauldron, then you should expect this kind of thing. If +you don't want this, do not use cauldron. It's not a hard choice. + +><i> But I don't trust _your_ judgment, folks, your inconsistent policies, +</I>><i> your questionable common sense. As FLOSS developers, you're first of +</I>><i> all full of pride, pride, and pride again. You're _always_ right -- +</I>><i> you're Gods, after all. Well, I'm an atheist then. +</I> +WTF? Jeeze I wish I hadn't spent time replying sensibly to the points +above when you sign off with such a blatant troll.... + +Col + + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>] +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>] + PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>] + Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>] +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006791.html">[Mageia-dev] kernel 3.0 is a big mistake in cauldron +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006792.html">[Mageia-dev] kernel 3.0 is a big mistake in cauldron +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6788">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6788">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6788">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6788">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |