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I have thought on 3 alternatives: +</I>><i> > - easy way, only having it packaged, but not +</I>><i> > providing/obsoleting/conflicting with sysvinit. This way, it will work +</I>><i> > when kernel is booted with init=/bin/systemd (the least invasive way) +</I>><i> > - compatible way (like in Mandriva) - it is available, systemd-sysvinit +</I>><i> > conflicts with sysvinit, so if someone installs systemd-sysvinit, +</I>><i> > sysvinit goes away and systemd is run by default. This seems to be the +</I>><i> > most sane way to me (but I could be biased), and it is easiest one for +</I>><i> > testing +</I>><i> > - ultimate way - systemd provides and obsoletes sysvinit and its +</I>><i> > goodies. This way, systemd will be the only one (e.g., highlander +</I>><i> > style). This is how fedora did it if I am not mistaken, but I am not +</I>><i> > sure if it the best way. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So, that's it for now from my part.. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'd like option 2 please! :) It doesn't exclude using option 1 along +</I>><i> with it (I was doing this for a while), so it's most flexible. +</I>><i> +</I> +After my tries with mandriva, I vote for the highlander way (option 3). +Systemd was almost working (for me, I suppose that with some more questions +I could have got it working fine), but I always had problems with the mix of +init and systemd scripts. You could disable something with chkconfig, +but systemd still lanunched it, you never knew if you had to disable +something in one place or another, and anyways, it looks like systemd +is not really thought to "disable" services. + +So go for all and go systemd only, so problems will be discovered early and +fixed early. + +As a side note, this reminds me of the mix of ifplugd and networkmanager. +This was a point I wanted to throw in MGA2 specs: migrate completely to +networkmanager and ditch net_applet and traditional network scripts. +NetworkManger is the only sane way where I can have 5 wifi setups and +system chooses the good one automagically, and connects on boot. +Do you think this is worth a separate thread, or there is no point in +discussion ? + +TIA + +-- +J.A. Magallon <jamagallon()ono!com> \ Winter is coming... +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006712.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia 2 specifications] Systemd or not systemd +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006646.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia 2 specifications] Systemd or not systemd +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6645">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6645">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6645">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6645">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |