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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Sat Jul 9 00:42:39 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Angelo Naselli a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;<i> thanks to mamming we've improved our wiki page [1].
+</I>&gt;<i> It's always work in progress of course, new project entries
+</I>&gt;<i> and movement from to be packaged to package are
+</I>&gt;<i> always welcome :D
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Let's talk about what to do now, two main steps are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * add missing educational programs
+</I>&gt;<i> * group educational programs in specialized meta-packages
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the first step every packagers, or padawans are welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i> stblack, pasmatt (matteo) and I will start working asap.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Latter instead is a little bit complex, in that page there
+</I>&gt;<i> are projects like monodevelop, blander... that are not
+</I>&gt;<i> easy to group in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IMO we could have three starting meta-packages at the moment
+</I>&gt;<i> focused on students age -maybe on their related teacher as
+</I>&gt;<i> well- something like:
+</I>&gt;<i> pre-school&lt;6 y.o.
+</I>&gt;<i> primary-school 6-10 y.o
+</I>&gt;<i> secondary-school 10-14 y.o
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can't see how to group for people over (high school?)
+</I>&gt;<i> since in Italy for instance we have different kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> school addresses e.g. technical in computer science, in chemical, etc...
+</I>
+In North America, your &quot;high school&quot; would be called &quot;middle school&quot;, which has
+more or less disappeared.
+primary is about 6-12 y
+secondary is about 13-18 y
+the range 10-14 y remains transitional, in terms of curriculum, however.
+Smarter kids near the end of primary would be more interested in secondary
+level (and the inverse, I would imagine).
+Maybe it would be better to designate by anticipated age range ?
+In any case, there should be a lot of overlap.
+(Just because someone turns 15 they won't suddenly loose interest in what they
+used before.)
+
+&gt;<i> Then another issue could be the desktop, or better, installing things
+</I>&gt;<i> either for qt or gtk for instance.
+</I>
+I might be mistaken, but wouldn't most of such apps be more or less
+desktop-agnostic ?
+If not, we should give alternatives -- a Gnome user probably wouldn't want to
+install half of KDE for one package, and the equivalent would apply to KDE
+users. And of course other desktops.
+
+&gt;<i> And is it right to install more than one project doing similar things?
+</I>
+Why not ? It gives a choice, which I think encourages a positive attitude
+toward the use of computers as a tool in their life.
+As long as we don't try to insist that they can't uninstall something they're
+not interested in.
+
+&gt;<i> Should we/Are we able to decide which is the &quot;best&quot; to be included in the
+</I>&gt;<i> meta-package?
+</I>
+We could make suggestions, but it seems difficult to decide what. There is
+such variation of interest and ability among the young (like everyone else),
+that it seems even more difficult to decide &quot;the&quot; best.
+
+For those of high school level and above, it might be an idea to have meta
+packages focused on the domaine of interert, such &quot;natural sciences&quot; or &quot;social
+sciences&quot;, etc.
+
+&gt;<i> What do you think about this subject?
+</I>
+It might be an idea to have a base meta package which includes LibreOffice,
+internet tools, and other apps good for all age groups interested in education ?
+
+&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Angelo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1] <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=sigedu">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=sigedu</A>
+</I>
+Regards
+--
+Andr&#233;
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