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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kdenlive-0.8.2-1.mga2</H1>
+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 15 december 2011 19:25:22 schreef Florian Hubold:
+&gt;<i> Am 15.12.2011 00:16, schrieb Maarten Vanraes:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; if QA doesn't have time to do these extreeme testing, then it shouldn't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; be done. and only backport.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i guess that's my pov
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+</I>&gt;<i> For backports the same QA would be mandatory. How is that a solution?
+</I>&gt;<i> Backports is not the place to drop untested updates, it's just for
+</I>&gt;<i> everything else than pure bugfix or security updates.
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+For backports QA is mandatory, but not in the same level, or it would be
+updates... it's imho also not doable to test this just as well as updates.
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+for updates, it's important that it works without any visible change, it has
+to work needlessly 100%, you must be sure that updates are 100% safe.
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+backports is a new version. it means it's an upgrade project for people. it
+means you will backup your files and test it first, then put into production.
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+I know this definition sounds subjective, but it's one i keep in mind. if i'm
+assured this'll have no problems, it's ok for me to update imho.
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+&gt;<i> IMHO, as you already relayed your wife's complaints about crashes
+</I>&gt;<i> you would be the perfect candidate to do the QA for this, or doesn't
+</I>&gt;<i> your wife want those crashes/bugs fixed? Think about the next project ...
+</I>
+Of course, she does. i'll definately test it. this is exactly why i want
+backports to have.
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+&gt;<i> Just do a full backup, try the rebuilt update, and if it's really not OK
+</I>&gt;<i> revert to the older packages and your backup. Everything else seems
+</I>&gt;<i> to foggy to me.
+</I>
+myeah, how many people do that when applying the daily updates? i wonder...
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