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All modules are possible to turn-on and to +</I>><i> turn-off in a menu of X. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And there is a discussion because there is no Y at all in Mageia. +</I>><i> Person A says: +</I>><i> - include the module, even if there is no Y in Mageia (and maybe never +</I>><i> will be included), because an end-user can install Y from alternative +</I>><i> source or compile it from sources; and don't add Suggests/Requires for Y +</I>><i> in the package, because it's obvious that this is to support Y; also +</I>><i> installing Y from alternative sources/self-compilation is much simpler +</I>><i> than reinstalling X with support for Y +</I>><i> Person B says: +</I>><i> - don't include the module, because Y is a dependency for the module of +</I>><i> X - and we don't ship broken packages that aren't self-contained; so it +</I>><i> must be excluded from X or the nobody has package Y and maintain it +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Neither A nor B want to work with Y package. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Who is right? +</I> +imho, if Y is wanted by some people, and X works more of less fine without Y +even if it's support is compiled, and sometimes a get-Y package is fine. + +imho it's maintainer's preference, if maintainer is fine to also "support the +Y-module for X" even if depends on Y and Y is not allowed in mageia, or even +if Y is in nonfree... it's fine by me. + +let's get into specifics: + +eg: + +X = eduke32 (free) +Y = content from CDROM (non-redistributable and must be bought) +Y' = eduke32-hrp (nonfree, but redistributable, may arguably depend on Y, may +in future become free, company holding the license of the few files has gone +away, the few files may be redone or become GPL-compatible) +Y'' = demo-data (nonfree, but redistributable) +(also there are other mods who may serve as Y''') + +Y' supposedly doens't work without Y; but maybe it does more or less +Y'' is shareware + +what users want is usually X + Y' + +thus in such cases i want to provide X in core, Y' in nonfree and perhaps Y'' +in nonfree as well. + +this may all seem complicated, but: + +businesses aren't necessarily wrong, i mean, they provide programs for +windows/mac, if we want them to also provide for linux, we should make a step +towards them. + +furthermore, any step towards opensource should be encouraged, thus i feel +that "free engines" should still be free. + +i think a README.install.urpmi should be attached to those and noted that Y is +required for it. furthermore Y' should be suggested, even if it's in nonfree +repos. + +just my €0.02 +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="010311.html">[Mageia-dev] Build-in or stand-alone module for X to support Y +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="010315.html">[Mageia-dev] Build-in or stand-alone module for X to support Y +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#10313">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#10313">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#10313">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#10313">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |