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Should we move wholesale to dracut? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> It's very easy to hack on, and Harald Hoyer has been very helpful and +</I>>>><i> has merged some of the patches we carried locally (which I mostly copied +</I>>>><i> from Mandriva). Not sure why they were not upstreamed before. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> There are still a couple patches we carry locally (soon to be less when +</I>>>><i> Harald pushes his git repo and I rebase), but they are pretty trivial, +</I>>>><i> understandable and easily maintainable (mostly they will be stylistic +</I>>>><i> tweaks and naming variations - i.e. very minor). +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Modprobe rules are included even in the initrd so tweaks there follow +</I>>>><i> through. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I'm not necessarily against keeping mkinitrd, but I think we should take +</I>>>><i> the time from now until the beta phase to obsolte mkinitrd and force +</I>>>><i> everyone to use dracut in order to see if there are any issues and then +</I>>>><i> make the call before next beta or rc. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +1 +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> One thing that doesn't work with dracut yet is that it only includes the +</I>>><i> KMS drivers into initramfs if they are loaded at the time of initramfs +</I>>><i> creation, causing unoptimal boot screen when a) initramfs created by the +</I>>><i> installer (I guess), and when b) user has switched a driver non-kms -> kms. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This can probably be solved by some patching of +</I>>><i> modules.d/50plymouth/module-setup.sh, but I haven't looked at it closely +</I>>><i> yet. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Patch attached. I guess this would remain as a Mageia specific patch as +</I>><i> the wanted behavior is dependant on how the distribution handles driver +</I>><i> switching etc... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Shall I apply it? +</I> +Just to pick up on this patch, here is a conversation I just had with +Harald on #dracut IRC: + +coling> haraldh, the "more interesting" question (for various values of +"more interesting") was about a how hostonly works.... at the moment it +only includes modules that are already loaded... but in some cases you +want to include modules that are not currently loaded but do belong on +the h/w in question. +<coling> haraldh, one of the patches (that we believe might just have to +be a local one for the way we do things) is here: +<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/dracut/current/SOURCES/0508-plymouth-Include-kms-modules-even-if-they-are-not-cu.patch?revision=175507&view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/dracut/current/SOURCES/0508-plymouth-Include-kms-modules-even-if-they-are-not-cu.patch?revision=175507&view=markup</A> +<coling> It checks the module aliases against the current h/w. We do +this when we generate the initrd from the installer and include the KMS +modules even although they are not currently loaded. +<coling> I'm not sure if this is a mechanism you want to consider +supporting? e.g. perhaps "hostonly" mode could change to do things this +way (via modaliases) and a new "loadedonly" mode could suppliment +hostonly to give the current behaviour? +<coling> Or perhaps you could make hostonly={no|yes|loaded|hardware} +where yes is just a synonym for "loaded". +<coling> (I didn't write that patch by the way, so i'm just picking up +on the general principal with a view to seeing if the general concept +can be upstreamed) +<haraldh> hostonly, hmm, yes, greping for currently used modules was the +easiest and fastest way +<haraldh> to be more correct, we should do it with the aliases like in +your patch +<haraldh> but that is costly and takes a lot of time +<haraldh> and also the modprobe.conf.d is something one would want +<haraldh> and also install possible helper tools there +<haraldh> so, if you want to factor that one out in a module filter +function, send it to the initramfs mailing list +<haraldh> any help in that area is appreciated and most likely merged :) + + + + +So if you fancy working on this, I'm sure it'll get upstreamed :) + +Col + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +colin(at)mageia.org +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> + PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> + Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="010150.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Drop mkinitrd completely in favour of dracut. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="010476.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Drop mkinitrd completely in favour of dracut. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#10207">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#10207">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#10207">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#10207">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |