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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Tue Aug 30 23:23:54 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op 30-08-11 16:05, Florian Hubold schreef:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 30.08.2011 15:57, schrieb Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le mardi 30 ao&#251;t 2011 &#224; 15:47 +0200, Florian Hubold a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 30.08.2011 12:56, schrieb John Balcaen:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/8/29 Z&#233;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mmodem00 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Guys, could you please chill down a bit?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Seems this whole problem is about miscommunication
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and also about wrong attitude. Could you please discuss
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this first in private one-on-one, and if this is not sufficient
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> then contact someone else to help you or in the worst
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> case, contact the Council if you don't get this conflict solved?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> They did discuss in private chat, and also contacted someone to step and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> help.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well an open discussion on a public mailing list raises awareness
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on the conflict, but will it help in solving it? IMHO not. So what now?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This open discussion might even make things worse, because it arouses
+</I>&gt;<i> people and makes some people want to do something about the situation
+</I>&gt;<i> which, without enough knowledge, is a dangerous thing to do (Alas! I did
+</I>&gt;<i> send mails to Z&#233; and Mikala, trying to help but probably doing the
+</I>&gt;<i> opposite).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At the same time, I think a hidden conflict does more harm than one
+</I>&gt;<i> everybody knows about.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Besides, I think it is good to be aware that conflicts do arise, and
+</I>&gt;<i> even arise in wonderful environments where a lot of nice people are
+</I>&gt;<i> committing themselves to a great purpose without any financial profit in
+</I>&gt;<i> return.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think about making a how-to about how to prevent conflicts?
+</I>&gt;<i> Or a check list for steps to be taken when a conflict does arise? There
+</I>&gt;<i> must be a lot of knowledge on these subjects within the Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> community. Most of us, if not all, have prevented and solved conflicts,
+</I>&gt;<i> we only need to share our experience and knowledge.
+</I>
+A how-to (wiki page?) on dealing with conflicts sounds like a good idea.
+Although conflicts are inevitable as you say, I think it is important to avoid
+them getting personal (in terms of blame), and also that we don't start working
+at cross purposes.
+At the end of the road, for any group of intelligent people working together,
+there has to be some compromise for things to advance.
+Which is hopefully what we all want for Mageia.
+
+My 2 cents :)
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+Andr&#233;
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