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HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5B135989%5D&In-Reply-To=%3CCAJZLoOyc2SeJYvK%3DWpFWT3cRrvXYP7LUJxy_vkhauLkaf-WZBQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [135989]">mmodem00 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Aug 30 04:21:12 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007644.html">[Mageia-dev] [135989] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007666.html">[Mageia-dev] [135989] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7665">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7665">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7665">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7665">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/8/29 John Balcaen <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mikala at mageia.org</A>>: +><i> 2011/8/29  <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>>: +</I>>><i> Revision 135989 Author ze Date 2011-08-29 08:09:56 +0200 (Mon, 29 Aug 2011) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Log Message +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> - cmake its already builrequires by kde-macros +</I>>><i> - this way we dont force building strictly  with OpenJDK +</I>>><i> - remove clean section (done by default) +</I>>><i> - simple way to list dirs +</I>>><i> - set requires in devel package to release like hapens for restant packages +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Modified Paths +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> cauldron/soprano/current/SPECS/soprano.spec +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Modified: cauldron/soprano/current/SPECS/soprano.spec +</I>>><i> =================================================================== +</I>>><i> --- cauldron/soprano/current/SPECS/soprano.spec       2011-08-29 05:21:36 UTC (rev +</I>>><i> 135988) +</I>>><i> +++ cauldron/soprano/current/SPECS/soprano.spec       2011-08-29 06:09:56 UTC (rev +</I>><i> [...] +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i>  %if %with_java +</I>>><i> -BuildRequires: java-rpmbuild +</I>>><i> +BuildRequires: java-devel +</I>>><i>  BuildRequires: chrpath +</I>>><i>  %endif +</I>><i> This is stupid. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i>  Conflicts: soprano-devel < 4:2.6.51-2 +</I>>><i>  Suggests: soprano-plugin-virtuoso = %{epoch}:%version +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> @@ -55,8 +52,8 @@ +</I>>><i>  %defattr(-,root,root) +</I>>><i>  %_bindir/sopranocmd +</I>>><i>  %_bindir/sopranod +</I>>><i> -%dir %_datadir/soprano +</I>>><i> -%_datadir/soprano/rules +</I>>><i> +%dir %_datadir/soprano/ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I guess i forgot the the purpose of %dir so could you explain me the difference +</I>><i> between %dir %datadir/soprano & %dir %datadir/soprano/ ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> [...] +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> -Provides: libsoprano-devel = %{epoch}:%version-%release +</I>>><i> -Requires: %libsoprano = %{epoch}:%version-%release +</I>>><i> -Requires: %libsopranoclient = %{epoch}:%version-%release +</I>>><i> -Requires: %libsopranoserver = %{epoch}:%version-%release +</I>>><i> -Requires: %libsopranoindex = %{epoch}:%version-%release +</I>>><i> -Requires: %name = %{epoch}:%version-%release +</I>>><i> -Requires: %{name}-plugin-virtuoso = %{epoch}:%version-%release +</I>>><i> -Requires: %{name}-plugin-redland = %{epoch}:%version-%release +</I>>><i> +Provides: libsoprano-devel = %{epoch}:%version +</I>>><i> +Requires: %libsoprano = %{epoch}:%version +</I>>><i> +Requires: %libsopranoclient = %{epoch}:%version +</I>>><i> +Requires: %libsopranoserver = %{epoch}:%version +</I>>><i> +Requires: %libsopranoindex = %{epoch}:%version +</I>>><i> +Requires: %name = %{epoch}:%version +</I>>><i> +Requires: %{name}-plugin-virtuoso = %{epoch}:%version +</I>>><i> +Requires: %{name}-plugin-redland = %{epoch}:%version +</I>><i> It's quite different of what you wrote in the description... +</I>><i> Here you set the requires to %version & not to %release... +</I>><i> Also it's quite different how we create requires on library packages +</I>><i> on other kde's related packages (since we're using +</I>><i> %epoch:%version-%release) +</I>><i> but since you already talk with yourself for this change i guess you +</I>><i> can surely share the reason for this change. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well i don't care anymore i guess.. +</I> +Yes the commit coment was incorrect, what i wanted to say was this: +- set requires in devel package to version like hapens for restant packages + +Since all soprano packages have requires to version (except the devel +package), i just put the devel requires also to version, that way we +had soprano requires only to version. +See if we were really acting as a team then i would replade restant +soprano packages to have requires to release instead changing then to +version, but you with dmorgan have put me simply apart, so how could +you expect me to do things other way if you with dmorgan have simply +alienated me. + +You were also who started doing all by own way, you didnt discuss with +me anychanges, for example the changes you made in wiki. +For example you add severall items to Golds section without discussing +any, they should be first added as proposals so that could be first +discussed in a meeing. +But for you theres no kde team, since you just do what it pleases you. +But now you should be even more pleased since now dmorgan in the kde +packaging policy wiki page have put that now in a PENDING status. + +I know very well from where comes all that dmorgan animosityagainst +me, mem and dmorgan is the past have already had divergencies, so let +you know that this simply dodnt appear out of the blue, there are a +history regarding dmorgan and me. + +Before dmorgan appear we were going ok, of course we had some +discussions but thats normal, but its not normal that without any +proper reason dmorgan did talked to me with some "tone" and +"aggressiveness". + +You even said that i would be happy if you left Mageia, and like i +answered in other thread you were too far from the truth, you are a +person that are always contributing, that put much effort to help +Mageia, and no one in his perfect mind would think was good to put +away some person with those capabilities. + +Some of my latest commits were correct and simple (for eexamplein +kdelibs4), and they were reverted by dmorgan based in a rule that he +created, and that rule was simply put by him, without any discusion, +no one were asked about and i never agreed with it, he simply said +"and now i take my sysadmin hat..." and did it. + +So from that point what would be the purpose to discuss any with you +since no one can diverge from you, when that happens dmorgan appears +and "takes his sysadmin hat..." and rises his tone saying i cant do +this or that. +Seamsn now you and dmorgan own kde. + +Your behaviour has changed mainly from the day that misc attacked me +without knowing all facts, so from that point all that was being done +as team SIMPLY didsappeared, and you didnt even said nothing about +what dmorgan did, saying that my commits should be reviewed all by +you, that is abusive, and if remember correctly untill that day we act +as a team, and you be havior from that changed and severall times you +rised your tone just like that for almost nothing. + +I always wanted that we could all could get along with each other, of +course we would have some discussions (thats normal, and its from +discussions that development grows), and from that we would reach +agreements and consensus about what to do or follow. + +I think if we continued as a team without dmorgan interventions we +would continue in the right path for Mageia grow and stability. + +And again i appeal that we can that we could have a meeting so that +all could be discussed and defined, so that now we should act as a +whole without any frictions. +Like i satated im not here to fight or bash no one, but to act as a +part of a whole. + +Yesterday i was about to remove me completly from Mageia, since i dont +want to be in a place where someone can have abusice behaviours and no +appears to regulate that sittuation. +Mikala mayve this was your wish, since what have been happening its +far from a community behaviour and you may see that im very different +from Fwang, some that you have referred severall tmes that he changes +things without discussing any, thing that i did used to do as a team, +but my latest commit was something i did to see at what point things +would go, and again i can see dmorgan can do everything he wants like +now put me as a pending status regarding the kde team. + +-- +Zé +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007644.html">[Mageia-dev] [135989] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007666.html">[Mageia-dev] [135989] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7665">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7665">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7665">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7665">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev 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