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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] [fedora-arm] ARM summit at Plumbers 2011</H1>
+ <B>Gordan Bobic</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [fedora-arm] ARM summit at Plumbers 2011">gordan at bobich.net
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+ <I>Tue Aug 23 18:25:34 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE> On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:11:34 +0100, Steve McIntyre
+ &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">steve.mcintyre at linaro.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 07:15:34PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>Following on from the founding of the cross-distro ARM mailing list,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>I'd like to propose an ARM summit at this year's Linux Plumbers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>conference [1]. I'm hoping for a slot on Thursday evening, but this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>remains to be confirmed at this point.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>We had some lively discussion about the state of ARM Linux distros at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>the Linaro Connect [2] event in Cambridge last week. It rapidly
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> became
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>clear that some of the topics we discussed deserve a wider audience,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>so we're suggesting a meetup at Plumbers for that bigger
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>discussion. The initial proposed agenda is:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * ARM hard-float
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + What is it and why does it matter?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + How can distributions keep compatible (i.e. gcc triplet to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> describe the port)?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * Adding support for ARM as an architecture to the Linux Standard
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Base (LSB)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Does it matter?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + What's needed?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * FHS - multi-arch coming soon, how do we proceed?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * 3D support on ARM platforms
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Open GL vs. GLES - which is appropriate?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>but I'm sure that other people will think of more issues they'd like
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>to discuss. :-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>If you wish to attend, please reply to the cross-distro list and let
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>us know to expect you. Make sure you're registered to attend Plumbers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>Conf, and get your travel and accommodation organised ASAP.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>[1] <A HREF="http://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/2011/">http://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/2011/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>[2] <A HREF="http://connect.linaro.org/">http://connect.linaro.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> UPDATE: we've not had many people confirm interest in this event yet,
+</I>&gt;<i> which is a shame. If you would like to join us for this session,
+</I>&gt;<i> please reply and let me know. If we don't get enough interest by the
+</I>&gt;<i> end of Sunday (28th August), then we'll have to cancel the meeting.
+</I>
+ Unfortunately there is no way I could make it, but on the subject of 3D
+ support on ARM, Luke recently mentioned something that initially seemed
+ outlandish but upon closer examination doesn't seem like a bad idea. As
+ we all know, the state of openness of specifications of commonly used
+ ARM 3D GPUs is at best dire. What has been proposed is a bit radical,
+ but it doesn't actually seem that implausible. Specifically, combining
+ Open Graphics Project (<A HREF="http://wiki.opengraphics.org/tiki-index.php">http://wiki.opengraphics.org/tiki-index.php</A>) and
+ the xilinx zynq-7000 or similar (dual core Cortex A9 + FPGA). The idea
+ is to have an OGP GPU in firmware in FPGA. In terms of the power budget,
+ it seems to work relatively sanely considering what it is, and it is as
+ ideal as it gets as far as openness and flexibility goes.
+
+ I just thought it's worthy of a mention.
+
+ Gordan
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