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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+ <I>Thu Aug 25 21:29:06 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 25 ao&#251;t 2011 &#224; 15:33 +0100, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and D.Morgan at 25/08/11 15:22 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 'Twas brillig, and Mageia Team at 25/08/11 09:56 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Name : udev Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Version : 173 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Release : 1.mga2 Build Date: Thu Aug 25 10:54:41 2011
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: jonund
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Group : System/Configuration/Hardware Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Size : 745928 License: GPLv2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Packager : Mageia Team &lt;<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; URL : <A HREF="ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug">ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Summary : A userspace implementation of devfs
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Udev is an implementation of devfs/devfsd in userspace using sysfs and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; /sbin/hotplug. It requires a 2.6 kernel to run properly.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Like devfs, udev dynamically creates and removes device nodes from /dev/.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; It responds to /sbin/hotplug device events.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; misc &lt;misc&gt; 173-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; + Revision: 135235
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - fix description ( rpmlint error )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; + tv &lt;tv&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - fix file list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - new release
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - rediff patch 0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; So, with the new udev, it seems that udev-acl is removed. This is a step
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; towards systemd which now handles all the ACL application.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Do we really want this new udev now? If so, then we really need to step
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; up the systemd integration. Things are mostly working fine for me
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; without udev-acls, but even with the systemd package as presently
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; available, I have to edit my /etc/pamd.d/system-auth file to include the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; pam_systemd stuff - see my earlier message to this list about that.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; what about doing like fedora ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; %post
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; # Make sure pam_systemd is enabled
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; if ! /bin/grep -q pam_systemd /etc/pam.d/system-auth-ac ; then
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; /usr/sbin/authconfig --update --nostart &gt;/dev/null 2&gt;&amp;1 || :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; # Try harder
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; /bin/grep -q pam_systemd /etc/pam.d/system-auth-ac ||
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; /usr/sbin/authconfig --updateall --nostart &gt;/dev/null 2&gt;&amp;1 || :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; fi
+</I>
+I think it may be easier to write a script around augeas than import
+authconfig, as I suspect that it would do much more change.
+
+
+&gt;<i> Yup that's what I asked in my last email about this several weeks ago.
+</I>&gt;<i> I've pinged it up to get more discussion about the topic.
+</I>
+In fact, it was not clear that you asked a question in the mail :/
+
+We said that we would support booting without systemd-, so to me, this
+should be taken in account.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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