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+ <B>Remco Rijnders</B>
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+ <I>Thu Aug 25 20:14:45 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 08:09:26AM -0400, Stew wrote in
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">4E563B76.7080300 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>On 08/24/2011 08:50 PM, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>I was told that QA Team's work's visibility needs to be improved, so as a team
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>member I'll try to give you some sort of status report.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>- 1 has been validated by QA one month ago, but was assigned to security team
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>following updates policy for security fixes, and got not answer. We have to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>improve either the policy or the security team here (or both).
+</I>&gt;<i>Do you have a pointer to this bug? I'm not finding it in bugzilla.
+</I>&gt;<i>I'm not sure what I can do with it once assigned back to secteam,
+</I>&gt;<i>aside from write an advisory text. I don't have admin rights to
+</I>&gt;<i>release it, etc. (afaik). It was basically my understanding that the
+</I>&gt;<i>secteam role is to initiate the bug, provide patches, POC, and
+</I>&gt;<i>advisory text and the maintainer do the update and pass it on to QA.
+</I>&gt;<i>I've stopped even intiating because they are just sitting there in
+</I>&gt;<i>the new/unassigned state. some for 2 months or more now. While a
+</I>&gt;<i>shiny new KDE is nice, not pushing updates for published
+</I>&gt;<i>vulnerabilities makes us look bad, imho.
+</I>
+I think what we need is a trinity of triage, secteam, and QA to work on
+security related things. Triage team will assign or cc the security team
+on security related bugs as efficiently as possible, from there security
+team will work with the maintainer on the fix and hands it to qa for
+(expedited) testing and release.
+
+My personal feeling is that security is too important a thing to leave up
+to an individual maintainer or last committer to fix, especially when it
+is remotely exploitable. Perhaps make a distinction on the severity of the
+security issue?
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+- If it needs an authenticated user for an exploit to work, assign it to
+ the maintainer, Cc security team. If there is no response from the
+ maintainer after x days (say 10 or so), security team takes over
+ responsibility.
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+- If it is remotely exploitable and leads to a DoS or take over, security
+ team is instantly responsible and Cc's the maintainer on the bug and
+ works on a quick update.
+
+In my opinion it is more important to be concerned with the safety of our
+users machines than with perhaps stepping on a sour maintainers toes.
+
+Perhaps in the next packagers meeting something like this can be agreed
+on? The security team needs to have the needed privileges to quickly
+handle security issues the best way it sees fit.
+
+Remmy
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