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Just stating that they are +</I>>><i> used there as a reason to keep it isn't really a good argument IMO. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> drakx-installer uses most of interesting bits of drakx-net (ake network +</I>><i> detection & set up, ...) +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Asbestos is used in fire retardant wall insulation, but it's not a good +</I>>><i> argument to keep it considering the world has moved on and we now know +</I>>><i> the dangers of working with that material. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> OK, give me the NM patches for the installer :-) +</I> +If I get time, I think it would be worth looking at. Obviously (just +like in one of my replies) I'm far better at *talking* than *doing* too :D + +><i> Seriously, without trolling, we just cannot drop drakx-net until we got +</I>><i> something else for the installer. +</I>><i> Dunno what does anaconda these days btw? +</I> +Not sure. I'll have to take a look at that, but it would be interesting +to see if it's more integrated into NM now. + +>><i> So what does mgaonline need to work with drakx-net? Does it just need to +</I>>><i> know if you are online or not? If so why not use NM's dbus service to do +</I>>><i> that? It could eventually know whether you are on a paid/metered +</I>>><i> connection (this is not yet supported by NM but there has been some talk +</I>>><i> about it) or a "free" connection - a fast vs. slow connection etc. It +</I>>><i> could make intelligent, informed decisions, not just "is the user online +</I>>><i> - no matter how crappily?" +</I>><i> +</I>><i> mgaonline has less needs, basically detecting network connectivity +</I>><i> but those are shared with the installer, so even if the lower level +</I>><i> part would change, there's no readon not to have a common perl +</I>><i> layer hiding the low level bits instead of making both interfaces NM +</I> +Agreed. Perhaps my terminology is incorrect here. I'm not against such +an abstraction layer and even maintaining a if (nm) { new() } else { +old(); } approach for a release or two depending on need. + +Col + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>] +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>] + PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>] + Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>] +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007454.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007430.html">[Mageia-dev] [1882] include microcode.ko in installer image +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7461">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7461">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7461">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7461">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |