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+ <B>Balcaen John</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] %{foo} vs. %foo">mikala at mageia.org
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+ <I>Mon Aug 22 00:43:32 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le Sunday 21 August 2011 23:16:24 Z&#233; a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Theres been a private discussion regarding the macro correct layout,
+</I>&gt;<i> if %{foo} or %foo.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This rised when in the wiki page
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=kde4_packaging_policy">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=kde4_packaging_policy</A> i changed the
+</I>&gt;<i> spec layout from %foo into %{foo} to be as a reference point, in wich
+</I>&gt;<i> mikala has reverted back to %foo, and this discussion has taken other
+</I>&gt;<i> porportions so i would like your opinions regarding this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have pointed that for a wiki page should be proper to use %{...} to
+</I>&gt;<i> avoid doubts specially in beginners minds, since in some situations
+</I>&gt;<i> we need really to use the {} delimitations.
+</I>&gt;<i> In wich its recommendation its focused in this cute PDF from redhat
+</I>&gt;<i> website:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/2008/downloads/pdf/Wednesday_130pm">http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/2008/downloads/pdf/Wednesday_130pm</A>_
+</I>&gt;<i> Tom_Callaway_OSS.pdf
+</I>Maybe we can recall the situation &amp; check on *this* SPEC layout where
+the %{} is useful ?
+We're not even supposed to use macro with - (where indeed the use of %{}
+) so as i said before for *our* KDE spec layout &amp; KDE spec layout the
+*default* spec should use %foo &amp; not %{foo}, it's of course does not
+prevent the use of %{foo} for people but we won't rewrite all specs like
+you did for Qt4 just because you want to do it without asking first.
+
+Also could you explain why what was just a minor problem (when you
+changed without even asking us our opinion) become suddently a *major*
+problem which need suddenly a mail on -dev because i was not agree with
+you.
+
+I'm in a general impression that in fact you don't care at all about my
+opinion and if i'm not agree with you that's mean i'm just wrong...
+Yeah i still remember that you wrote on irc that i'm just too young to
+maintain KDE at all, that you're really a *old* packager with *years*
+and *years* of packaging, that's you're talking a lot with upstream when
+i'm not etc etc ....
+
+Maybe you can still push a little bit more and i'll simply quit since
+it's probably what you're looking for since several months...
+
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+P.S: yeah i started to have enough now...
+--
+Balcaen John
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