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It may be worthwhile to split +other less commonly used binaries out of samba-common. + +But, the purpose samba-common serves, having binaries and configuration files +which are *required* by many different scenarios, should not be changed to fit +squid. We could migrate ntlm_auth out of samba-common, but whatever package it +is in would require samba-common anyway ... + +><i> If there is reluctance to have a subpackage for squid alone, maybe a +</I>><i> subpackage which is a superset for all packages wanting approximately the +</I>><i> same components ? +</I> +Why specific to squid, when 3 packages in the distribution are commonly used +with ntlm_auth? + +><i> Possibly making this subpackage parallel to samba-common, created from the +</I>><i> same srcrpm, with mutual declared conflicts, so the subpackage is only +</I>><i> installed if samba-common isn't, and that those installing samba-common +</I>><i> install a single package. +</I> +What is the cost/benefit of this? + +><i> Both seem better options than an independant samba-squid-helper package, +</I>><i> which would require mutual conflicts with samba-common. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Just some random ideas ... +</I> +I would like to understand the motivation first. What are we trying to +achieve, besides more work for the samba maintainer? + +If we are trying to reduce the disk footprint of a squid+ntlm_auth setup, the +best approach is to move some binaries out of samba-common. + +Regards, +Buchan +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007279.html">[Mageia-dev] Re : Re: new samba-squid subpackage proporsal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007312.html">[Mageia-dev] new samba-squid subpackage proporsal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7313">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7313">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7313">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7313">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |