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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 05 augustus 2011 19:05:43 schreef Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz:
+&gt;<i> Le Vendredi 05 Ao&#251;t 2011 18:17:15 Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op woensdag 03 augustus 2011 14:01:16 schreef Buchan Milne:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Tuesday, 2 August 2011 22:23:24 Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Op dinsdag 02 augustus 2011 17:04:41 schreef Buchan Milne:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Samba-common is the right package for this. I see no need to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; have a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; squid- specific subpackage (and then samba-apache,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; samba-freeradius,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; with the same content, or all virtual packages just pulling
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; samba-common).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Feel free to mess up your squid package by adding suggests on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; samba-common, but since installing the right package is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; trivially
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; solved by the admin and is a small portion of the work required,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; would personally prefer not to increase the default footprint of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; any
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; installation that pulls in squid.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; this is really imho an example where conditional suggests could work
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; well: if you have squid already installed and you're installing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; samba,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; this subpackage could then be suggested. (and vice versa).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; But, it is irrelevant. samba-common is required by both samba-client
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; and samba-server, so you can't install samba without getting
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ntlm_auth.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; there is definately a misunderstanding here, conditional suggests are not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; usefull for requires, only for suggests
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; This is really about whether squid should pull in any pieces of samba
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; by default, and could be solved by adding:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Suggests: samba-common
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; to squid. But, I don't see much value, as this is a small part of the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; work required to get a single-sign on authentication solution for squid
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; against AD. The default squid.conf already has example configs showing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; that ntlm_auth is required, and all we are saving the user is a 'urpmf
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ntlm_auth' and a 'urpmi samba-common'. However, there are many
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; scenarios squid can be deployed (e.g. SSO with GSSAPI, basic auth with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; LDAP, PAM, NIS etc., no authentication, peer cache only etc.), and I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; don't see a reason to pull in samba-common by default, when it saves
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; the admin very little effort.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Buchan
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; well if it was in a separate package (and not in samba-common), it would
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; be interesting to have conditional suggests. because then samba would
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pull it in; and squid too, without needing samba if you don't have it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but, maybe i'm misunderstanding this thread
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's what i was asking
+</I>&gt;<i> to create a new subpckage samba-helper-squid to stor ntlm_auth since
+</I>&gt;<i> ntlm_auth is not linked with other lib it can stand by itself in a
+</I>&gt;<i> independend subpackage to make a suggest from squid. But it seems Buchan
+</I>&gt;<i> refuses.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> LD
+</I>
+
+well, it's possible, but since there is no conditional suggests yet, i agree
+with Buchan. if there was conditional suggests, that would be better...
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