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This makes it hard to maintain, and to +</I>>><i> improve. +</I>><i> That's just your own POV. +</I>><i> Not the POV of maintainers. +</I> +Are there other maintainers for this tool than it's creators or +long-time maintainers? This is not only my POV, but also what I have +heard from a variety of people since the time I participate a little. +Anyway... + +>><i> I know it works fine for several people. Personally, I am often having +</I>>><i> issues because it's disconnects on it's own, +</I>><i> This has nothing to do with drakconnect that don't handle that. +</I>><i> If the network disconnected, that's the issue between the routers, +</I>><i> the network, the kernel, .... +</I>><i> and no longer sees any networks when it should. +</I>><i> which points to either network issue or kernel driver issue, not drakconnect. +</I> +Other people not using Mageia do not get as often disconnected as me +when using public hotspots. Mageia wireless tools seem to have more +difficulty to connect and keep the connections to hotspots that have a +low (not bad, low) quality signal, while Windows keeps connected, or, +quickly reconnects automatically. + +Meanwhile, I have to reconnect manually and, more frustrating, it seems +the wireless utility sometime attempts to reconnect automatically, but I +can't clearly know. + +The other bizarre thing I often see is when the hotspots he sees fall +from 35 to 0 (or 1, the hotspot he's tryign to connect). This is not +normal, I have not observed this NM, Windows or Mac OS X tools. + +><i> +</I>>><i> Then it has difficulty reconnecting. +</I>><i> Same, reconnecting is the job of dhcp-client, ifplugd and the like. +</I>><i> Not drakconnect's job. +</I> +I can't tell. I can only observe and I do not invent what I describe +(and have already described in the past). :-) + +>><i> Windows, Fedora and Ubuntu's wireless tools work absolutely smoothly at my +</I>>><i> school. And now, other people testing Mageia as school are having the same +</I>>><i> issues I have. This is frustrating and I can assure you these home-made +</I>>><i> network tools have to be improved and fixed. +</I>><i> Well, Fedora tool (really NM) has its own bugs. +</I>True. +><i> And I'm pretty sure people who've used MS, Apple or whatever OS/tool +</I>><i> they're used to, have also encountered issues +</I>True. But these issues are less evident to find apparently, and do not +affect that much user experience. + +When a user wants to connect to a wireless hotspot, he should just click +connect, enter his IDs and it should work fluently. If it is often the +case with Mageia tools with a personal hotspot and when you're next to +it, it is not always the case when you use it everyday, and, sadly, +other tools do better and have a more stable and smooth wireless +connectivity, even if they also encournter issues. Their issues are not +that much affecting user experience like the ones I have described. +>><i> If you want to, I can attempt to make a list of the isses and incoherencies +</I>>><i> I find, although they are not hard to see. +</I>><i> Indeed, please just fill in _several_ bugs (one report per issue) +</I>><i> against drakx-net +</I> +I will do one report for each issue I find in drakxnet, with as much +details as possible, yes. I shall also do a video capture of the issue +if it can help. this will take me a lot of time, but I will do it. + +>><i> But as I mentionned earlier, this +</I>>><i> is a tool that is hard to maintain, and I cannot learn perl right now. +</I>><i> That's just _your_ personnal though, not his maintainer's. +</I>><i> aka "this is a tool that is hard to maintain" really means "you would not be +</I>><i> able to maintain it" +</I>Right. +>><i> If NetworkManager is easier to maintain and works fine, then I think it can +</I>>><i> be a better solution. Just offering or trying to find solutions, because +</I>>><i> this tool seriously does not work properly here. +</I>><i> it has its own flaws too... +</I>Yes, but it does not confuses itself with it's own configuration files. +Clearly, all programs can have flaws, but sincerely, it is not working +well in Mageia and is not pleasant to use. Otherwise I would not report +again about it. ;-) +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007159.html">[Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007188.html">[Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7184">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7184">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7184">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7184">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |