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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.</H1>
+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+ <I>Mon Aug 1 15:59:24 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 1 August 2011 15:29, Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">skipercooker at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> The other main issue I see si that Drakxnet is coded in Perl and uses a lot
+</I>&gt;<i> of perl scripts, like the drakxtools. This makes it hard to maintain, and to
+</I>&gt;<i> improve.
+</I>
+That's just your own POV.
+Not the POV of maintainers.
+
+&gt;<i> I know it works fine for several people. Personally, I am often having
+</I>&gt;<i> issues because it's disconnects on it's own,
+</I>
+This has nothing to do with drakconnect that don't handle that.
+If the network disconnected, that's the issue between the routers,
+the network, the kernel, ....
+
+&gt;<i> and no longer sees any networks when it should.
+</I>
+which points to either network issue or kernel driver issue, not drakconnect.
+
+&gt;<i> Then it has difficulty &#160;reconnecting.
+</I>
+Same, reconnecting is the job of dhcp-client, ifplugd and the like.
+Not drakconnect's job.
+
+&gt;<i> Windows, Fedora and Ubuntu's wireless tools work absolutely smoothly at my
+</I>&gt;<i> school. And now, other people testing Mageia as school are having the same
+</I>&gt;<i> issues I have. This is frustrating and I can assure you these home-made
+</I>&gt;<i> network tools have to be improved and fixed.
+</I>
+Well, Fedora tool (really NM) has its own bugs.
+And I'm pretty sure people who've used MS, Apple or whatever OS/tool
+they're used to, have also encountered issues
+
+&gt;<i> If you want to, I can attempt to make a list of the isses and incoherencies
+</I>&gt;<i> I find, although they are not hard to see.
+</I>
+Indeed, please just fill in _several_ bugs (one report per issue)
+against drakx-net
+
+&gt;<i> But as I mentionned earlier, this
+</I>&gt;<i> is a tool that is hard to maintain, and I cannot learn perl right now.
+</I>
+That's just _your_ personnal though, not his maintainer's.
+aka &quot;this is a tool that is hard to maintain&quot; really means &quot;you would not be
+able to maintain it&quot;
+
+&gt;<i> If NetworkManager is easier to maintain and works fine, then I think it can
+</I>&gt;<i> be a better solution. Just offering or trying to find solutions, because
+</I>&gt;<i> this tool seriously does not work properly here.
+</I>
+it has its own flaws too...
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