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+<PRE>Le 2010-12-26 17:29, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op zondag 26 december 2010 09:50:34 schreef Marc Par&#233;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was just recently reminded of this on a Mdv list. Is there a way to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> make the setting of NFS shares easier for users. Way back in Mandriva
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2008 the NFS process was very well done and users would only have to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> establish NFS shares with other computers and the etc/fstab was properly
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> written.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Since Mdv 2009 the process seems to have been broken and I have had to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> go into the fstab and change manually the pathway to from &quot;computername&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to &quot;ip pathway&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I had posted the fix on the MDV forums and put in a bug for this. I am
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not sure if my bug was not well written and maybe that is why it was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> never really taken up by the dev team.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You can find the post here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?f=87&amp;t=113793">http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?f=87&amp;t=113793</A> and you will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> find the process to establish NFS shares at the very bottom of the post.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> NOTE that the shortcut to the bugzilla no longer works.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I still use this process with MDV2010.2 and set my fstab by hand. I have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 4 networked MDV boxes in the house and they all use NFS shares.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It would be nice if this were fixed with Mageia as it would be quite an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> advantage from a user's point of view as this would make the setting of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shares fullproof. Setting up of NFS shares could then be advertised as a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> positive point from a marketing point of view.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Note the the setting of NFS shares comes up constantly on helplists and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> most of these involve the fstab.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> while we're on the subject, imo, user accessible NFS shares could be used with
+</I>&gt;<i> the notification area; like it was a USB disk, then people can mount/unmount it
+</I>&gt;<i> easier; or perhaps less problems if network is suddenly disabled and we have
+</I>&gt;<i> mounted NFS hosts.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+This would certainly be quite handy as many households have more than 1
+computer and they could then manage share easier.
+
+Marc
+
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+<PRE>Op maandag 27 december 2010 07:20:09 schreef Marc Par&#233;:
+&gt;<i> Le 2010-12-26 17:29, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op zondag 26 december 2010 09:50:34 schreef Marc Par&#233;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I was just recently reminded of this on a Mdv list. Is there a way to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; make the setting of NFS shares easier for users. Way back in Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2008 the NFS process was very well done and users would only have to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; establish NFS shares with other computers and the etc/fstab was properly
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; written.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Since Mdv 2009 the process seems to have been broken and I have had to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; go into the fstab and change manually the pathway to from &quot;computername&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to &quot;ip pathway&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I had posted the fix on the MDV forums and put in a bug for this. I am
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; not sure if my bug was not well written and maybe that is why it was
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; never really taken up by the dev team.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; You can find the post here:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?f=87&amp;t=113793">http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?f=87&amp;t=113793</A> and you will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; find the process to establish NFS shares at the very bottom of the post.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; NOTE that the shortcut to the bugzilla no longer works.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I still use this process with MDV2010.2 and set my fstab by hand. I have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 4 networked MDV boxes in the house and they all use NFS shares.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It would be nice if this were fixed with Mageia as it would be quite an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; advantage from a user's point of view as this would make the setting of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; shares fullproof. Setting up of NFS shares could then be advertised as a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; positive point from a marketing point of view.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Note the the setting of NFS shares comes up constantly on helplists and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; most of these involve the fstab.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Marc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; while we're on the subject, imo, user accessible NFS shares could be used
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; with the notification area; like it was a USB disk, then people can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mount/unmount it easier; or perhaps less problems if network is suddenly
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; disabled and we have mounted NFS hosts.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This would certainly be quite handy as many households have more than 1
+</I>&gt;<i> computer and they could then manage share easier.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>
+indeed
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+ <B>Leandro Dorileo</B>
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+<PRE>Hi
+
+On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Daniel Kreuter
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">daniel.kreuter85 at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thursday 16 December 2010 19:21:32 Remy CLOUARD wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - DKMS
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/DKMS_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/DKMS_packaging_policy</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I imported the quoted part, if someone would read over it and give me
+</I>&gt;<i> some feedback then I can continue on others.
+</I>
+I have checked it and fixed some minor things, seems to be ok. You
+can move on. :-)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wanted to mark some words in another Color to highlight them such as
+</I>&gt;<i> files or something like that but didn't find the keywords for that, if
+</I>&gt;<i> someone knows them I'll change that.
+</I>
+
+Bold is a good highlight, you can list commands with &lt;code&gt;(like you
+did, are you xardas008 BTW? :-).
+
+PS: In case of policies mentioning sub-project`s ML(like happens with
+DKMS) we can replace it with mageia-dev by now, untill we need teams
+and sub-projects, what others think?
+
+Regards....
+
+--
+Leandro Dorileo
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+<PRE>Daniel Kreuter a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thursday 16 December 2010 19:21:32 Remy CLOUARD wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - DKMS
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/DKMS_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/DKMS_packaging_policy</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I imported the quoted part, if someone would read over it and give me
+</I>&gt;<i> some feedback then I can continue on others.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wanted to mark some words in another Color to highlight them such as
+</I>&gt;<i> files or something like that but didn't find the keywords for that, if
+</I>&gt;<i> someone knows them I'll change that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Greetings
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+It the page it uses
+&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: courier; color: red&quot;&gt;dkms.conf&lt;/span&gt;
+
+Instead of the word red, #ff0000 (or #f00) should work.
+Some other colours :
+orange = #ff8000
+yellow = #ffff00
+green = #00ff00
+blue-green (cyan) = #00ffff
+blue = #0000ff
+violet = #ff00ff
+(These are not necessarily the official names for the colours.)
+
+These are bright colours.
+Drab colours use 80 instead of ff.
+Or whatever variation you like,
+The first 2 hex digits are the red part, the next 2 green, the last 2 blue.
+Using 3 hex digits instead of 6 is the same as doubling each digit.
+e.g. #789 is the same as #778899
+
+There is also
+ font-style: bold (or italic)
+ font-size: 10pt (common size)
+
+Regards
+Andr&#233;
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+ <B>Daniel Kreuter</B>
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+<PRE>Yes I am xardas008.
+
+Ok then I will continue on importing later.
+
+On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Leandro Dorileo &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ldorileo at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Daniel Kreuter
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">daniel.kreuter85 at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thursday 16 December 2010 19:21:32 Remy CLOUARD wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - DKMS
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/DKMS_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/DKMS_packaging_policy</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I imported the quoted part, if someone would read over it and give me
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; some feedback then I can continue on others.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have checked it and fixed some minor things, seems to be ok. You
+</I>&gt;<i> can move on. :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I wanted to mark some words in another Color to highlight them such as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; files or something like that but didn't find the keywords for that, if
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; someone knows them I'll change that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bold is a good highlight, you can list commands with &lt;code&gt;(like you
+</I>&gt;<i> did, are you xardas008 BTW? :-).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: In case of policies mentioning sub-project`s ML(like happens with
+</I>&gt;<i> DKMS) we can replace it with mageia-dev by now, untill we need teams
+</I>&gt;<i> and sub-projects, what others think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Leandro Dorileo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+--
+Mit freundlichen Gr&#252;&#223;en
+
+Greetings
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+<PRE>Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Op zondag 26 december 2010 09:50:34 schreef Marc Par&#233;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was just recently reminded of this on a Mdv list. Is there a way to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> make the setting of NFS shares easier for users. Way back in Mandriva
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2008 the NFS process was very well done and users would only have to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> establish NFS shares with other computers and the etc/fstab was properly
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> written.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Since Mdv 2009 the process seems to have been broken and I have had to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> go into the fstab and change manually the pathway to from &quot;computername&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to &quot;ip pathway&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I had posted the fix on the MDV forums and put in a bug for this. I am
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not sure if my bug was not well written and maybe that is why it was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> never really taken up by the dev team.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You can find the post here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?f=87&amp;t=113793">http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?f=87&amp;t=113793</A> and you will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> find the process to establish NFS shares at the very bottom of the post.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> NOTE that the shortcut to the bugzilla no longer works.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I still use this process with MDV2010.2 and set my fstab by hand. I have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 4 networked MDV boxes in the house and they all use NFS shares.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It would be nice if this were fixed with Mageia as it would be quite an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> advantage from a user's point of view as this would make the setting of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shares fullproof. Setting up of NFS shares could then be advertised as a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> positive point from a marketing point of view.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Note the the setting of NFS shares comes up constantly on helplists and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> most of these involve the fstab.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>
+Note that when Mageia bugzilla is set up, current proposals are to
+import MDV bugs - at least the current ones.
+So posting the bug on MDV bugzilla, with the proposed solution is the
+best bet for now.
+We can (collectively) try to ensure that it is corrected in Mageia once
+imported, even if nothing happens in MDV.
+
+&gt;<i> while we're on the subject, imo, user accessible NFS shares could be used with
+</I>&gt;<i> the notification area; like it was a USB disk, then people can mount/unmount it
+</I>&gt;<i> easier; or perhaps less problems if network is suddenly disabled and we have
+</I>&gt;<i> mounted NFS hosts.
+</I>
+Good idea. That should go into bugzilla too.
+
+Andr&#233;
+
+Andr&#233;
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+[...]
+&gt;<i> PS: In case of policies mentioning sub-project`s ML(like happens with
+</I>&gt;<i> DKMS) we can replace it with mageia-dev by now, untill we need teams
+</I>&gt;<i> and sub-projects, what others think?
+</I>
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+<PRE>Op maandag 27 december 2010 14:27:09 schreef andre999:
+&gt;<i> Daniel Kreuter a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thursday 16 December 2010 19:21:32 Remy CLOUARD wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - DKMS
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/DKMS_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/DKMS_packaging_policy</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I imported the quoted part, if someone would read over it and give me
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; some feedback then I can continue on others.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I wanted to mark some words in another Color to highlight them such as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; files or something like that but didn't find the keywords for that, if
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; someone knows them I'll change that.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Greetings
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Daniel Kreuter
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It the page it uses
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;span style=&quot;font-family: courier; color: red&quot;&gt;dkms.conf&lt;/span&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Instead of the word red, #ff0000 (or #f00) should work.
+</I>&gt;<i> Some other colours :
+</I>&gt;<i> orange = #ff8000
+</I>&gt;<i> yellow = #ffff00
+</I>&gt;<i> green = #00ff00
+</I>&gt;<i> blue-green (cyan) = #00ffff
+</I>&gt;<i> blue = #0000ff
+</I>&gt;<i> violet = #ff00ff
+</I>&gt;<i> (These are not necessarily the official names for the colours.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> These are bright colours.
+</I>&gt;<i> Drab colours use 80 instead of ff.
+</I>&gt;<i> Or whatever variation you like,
+</I>&gt;<i> The first 2 hex digits are the red part, the next 2 green, the last 2 blue.
+</I>&gt;<i> Using 3 hex digits instead of 6 is the same as doubling each digit.
+</I>&gt;<i> e.g. #789 is the same as #778899
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is also
+</I>&gt;<i> font-style: bold (or italic)
+</I>&gt;<i> font-size: 10pt (common size)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;<i> Andr&#233;
+</I>
+
+imho, we should refrain from color commenting; and perhaps mark it with some
+other way so that CSS styling can pick up on it. and let #mageia-web handle it
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+<PRE>Op maandag 27 december 2010 14:44:11 schreef andre999:
+&gt;<i> Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op zondag 26 december 2010 09:50:34 schreef Marc Par&#233;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I was just recently reminded of this on a Mdv list. Is there a way to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; make the setting of NFS shares easier for users. Way back in Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2008 the NFS process was very well done and users would only have to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; establish NFS shares with other computers and the etc/fstab was properly
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; written.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Since Mdv 2009 the process seems to have been broken and I have had to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; go into the fstab and change manually the pathway to from &quot;computername&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to &quot;ip pathway&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I had posted the fix on the MDV forums and put in a bug for this. I am
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; not sure if my bug was not well written and maybe that is why it was
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; never really taken up by the dev team.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; You can find the post here:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?f=87&amp;t=113793">http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?f=87&amp;t=113793</A> and you will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; find the process to establish NFS shares at the very bottom of the post.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; NOTE that the shortcut to the bugzilla no longer works.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I still use this process with MDV2010.2 and set my fstab by hand. I have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 4 networked MDV boxes in the house and they all use NFS shares.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It would be nice if this were fixed with Mageia as it would be quite an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; advantage from a user's point of view as this would make the setting of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; shares fullproof. Setting up of NFS shares could then be advertised as a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; positive point from a marketing point of view.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Note the the setting of NFS shares comes up constantly on helplists and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; most of these involve the fstab.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note that when Mageia bugzilla is set up, current proposals are to
+</I>&gt;<i> import MDV bugs - at least the current ones.
+</I>&gt;<i> So posting the bug on MDV bugzilla, with the proposed solution is the
+</I>&gt;<i> best bet for now.
+</I>&gt;<i> We can (collectively) try to ensure that it is corrected in Mageia once
+</I>&gt;<i> imported, even if nothing happens in MDV.
+</I>
+i don't want to restart the whole argument, but i only partly agree,
+
+i would say it's the packager's responsibility to import the bugs from mdv, if
+they are required while importing the package? perhaps.
+
+while i would not like dual bugs, also importing the whole buglist seems a bit
+over the top.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; while we're on the subject, imo, user accessible NFS shares could be used
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; with the notification area; like it was a USB disk, then people can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mount/unmount it easier; or perhaps less problems if network is suddenly
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; disabled and we have mounted NFS hosts.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good idea. That should go into bugzilla too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Andr&#233;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Andr&#233;
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+<PRE>Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Op maandag 27 december 2010 14:27:09 schreef andre999:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Daniel Kreuter a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thursday 16 December 2010 19:21:32 Remy CLOUARD wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - DKMS
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/DKMS_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/DKMS_packaging_policy</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I imported the quoted part, if someone would read over it and give me
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> some feedback then I can continue on others.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I wanted to mark some words in another Color to highlight them such as
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> files or something like that but didn't find the keywords for that, if
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> someone knows them I'll change that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Greetings
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Daniel Kreuter
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It the page it uses
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;span style=&quot;font-family: courier; color: red&quot;&gt;dkms.conf&lt;/span&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Instead of the word red, #ff0000 (or #f00) should work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is also
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> font-style: bold (or italic)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> font-size: 10pt (common size)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Andr&#233;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> imho, we should refrain from color commenting; and perhaps mark it with some
+</I>&gt;<i> other way so that CSS styling can pick up on it. and let #mageia-web handle it
+</I>
+Makes sense. Too many colours can get distracting.
+Using labels (or whatever they are officially called) would facilitate
+CSS styling.
+Exactly what labels would depend on what #mageia-web implements, of course.
+
+For temporary comments during the transition,
+ maybe italics surrounded by [ ... ] would be good ?
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+</I>&gt;<i> Op maandag 27 december 2010 14:44:11 schreef andre999:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Note that when Mageia bugzilla is set up, current proposals are to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> import MDV bugs - at least the current ones.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So posting the bug on MDV bugzilla, with the proposed solution is the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> best bet for now.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We can (collectively) try to ensure that it is corrected in Mageia once
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> imported, even if nothing happens in MDV.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i don't want to restart the whole argument, but i only partly agree,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i would say it's the packager's responsibility to import the bugs from mdv, if
+</I>&gt;<i> they are required while importing the package? perhaps.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> while i would not like dual bugs, also importing the whole buglist seems a bit
+</I>&gt;<i> over the top.
+</I>
+Don't you find that I'm pretty good at suggesting things that go a bit
+over the top ? ;)
+
+That said, your version much better reflects the discussions.
+And I totally agree.
+
+BTW, it would be nice to have a tool to facilitate easy importing of
+bugs by the packager. Particularly selective importing.
+If one doesn't already exist.
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+<PRE>Op maandag 27 december 2010 15:41:49 schreef andre999:
+&gt;<i> Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op maandag 27 december 2010 14:44:11 schreef andre999:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Note that when Mageia bugzilla is set up, current proposals are to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; import MDV bugs - at least the current ones.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; So posting the bug on MDV bugzilla, with the proposed solution is the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; best bet for now.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; We can (collectively) try to ensure that it is corrected in Mageia once
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; imported, even if nothing happens in MDV.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i don't want to restart the whole argument, but i only partly agree,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i would say it's the packager's responsibility to import the bugs from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mdv, if they are required while importing the package? perhaps.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; while i would not like dual bugs, also importing the whole buglist seems
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; a bit over the top.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Don't you find that I'm pretty good at suggesting things that go a bit
+</I>&gt;<i> over the top ? ;)
+</I>
+i have some idea of that
+
+&gt;<i> That said, your version much better reflects the discussions.
+</I>&gt;<i> And I totally agree.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW, it would be nice to have a tool to facilitate easy importing of
+</I>&gt;<i> bugs by the packager. Particularly selective importing.
+</I>&gt;<i> If one doesn't already exist.
+</I>
+or packager could instead of doing all that work, fix it...
+
+I can't remember anymore what was decided; if anything was decided; so when
+the moment comes, i'll take a look there
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> or packager could instead of doing all that work, fix it...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That would be ideal, but probably not realistic. Many bugs are to be
+fixed upstream.
+
+Perhaps no bugs should be imported and packager could follow MDV
+Bugzilla to see if, when and how they are fixed. Mageia bug reports
+should be triaged on their own. After all, they are now Mageia
+packages.
+
+--
+Hoyt
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+
+&gt;<i> On 12/27/10, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; or packager could instead of doing all that work, fix it...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That would be ideal, but probably not realistic. Many bugs are to be
+</I>&gt;<i> fixed upstream.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps no bugs should be imported and packager could follow MDV
+</I>&gt;<i> Bugzilla to see if, when and how they are fixed. Mageia bug reports
+</I>&gt;<i> should be triaged on their own. After all, they are now Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Hoyt
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I agree to that. I think it would be better to create the bugs in our
+bugzilla until they are found. Maybe while importing the packages from
+Mandriva they are fixed already in Mandriva without recognising it.
+It's better to start with a clean bugzilla then having such old bugs which i
+think won't be fixed at all.
+
+--
+Mit freundlichen Gr&#252;&#223;en
+
+Greetings
+
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+&gt;<i> On 12/27/10, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; or packager could instead of doing all that work, fix it...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That would be ideal, but probably not realistic. Many bugs are to be
+</I>&gt;<i> fixed upstream.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps no bugs should be imported and packager could follow MDV
+</I>&gt;<i> Bugzilla to see if, when and how they are fixed. Mageia bug reports
+</I>&gt;<i> should be triaged on their own. After all, they are now Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> packages.
+</I>
+i was thinking the same thing
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Op maandag 27 december 2010 17:52:43 schreef Hoyt Duff:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 12/27/10, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; or packager could instead of doing all that work, fix it...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That would be ideal, but probably not realistic. Many bugs are to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fixed upstream.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Perhaps no bugs should be imported and packager could follow MDV
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Bugzilla to see if, when and how &#160;they are fixed. Mageia bug reports
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should be triaged on their own. After all, they are now Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i was thinking the same thing
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+And if we could improve the triage process with better education to
+the users/submitters so they provide better infos at the beginning,
+that would be a big help. IIRC, there are very good MDB triage docs
+(how to do debugging, get more infos, etc) but they were intended for
+the triage team and not obvious to the submitter.
+
+--
+Hoyt
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 26 d&#233;cembre 2010 &#224; 17:42 +0100, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hope you all enjoy christmas time!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As proposed on last packagers meeting, here is the process for this vote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1- list all candidates until 31 of december on this thread
+</I>&gt;<i> 2- use epoll to vote for 2 representatives until 3rd of january (next
+</I>&gt;<i> packagers meeting)
+</I>
+Since many people asked me to do it ( on irc mainly ), I would like to
+propose my candidacy as well.
+
+So I am a Mandriva Linux packager since the days it was called Mandrake
+Linux ( in fact, around 2002 ), I am taking care of python and others
+minors rpms ( puppet, irssi, etc ). I already worked as a free software
+coder for a security company and as a sysadmin among others.
+
+I had already organized some free software events, and stand for free
+software related group ( AUFML, python-fr ) and was a representative in
+the Mandriva assembly.
+
+I have no linkedin profile, do not plan to create one nor to give my CV,
+sorry, but I can try to answer questions.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+<PRE>Op maandag 27 december 2010 21:23:00 schreef Michael Scherer:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 26 d&#233;cembre 2010 &#224; 17:42 +0100, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hope you all enjoy christmas time!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As proposed on last packagers meeting, here is the process for this vote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1- list all candidates until 31 of december on this thread
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2- use epoll to vote for 2 representatives until 3rd of january (next
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packagers meeting)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since many people asked me to do it ( on irc mainly ), I would like to
+</I>&gt;<i> propose my candidacy as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I am a Mandriva Linux packager since the days it was called Mandrake
+</I>&gt;<i> Linux ( in fact, around 2002 ), I am taking care of python and others
+</I>&gt;<i> minors rpms ( puppet, irssi, etc ). I already worked as a free software
+</I>&gt;<i> coder for a security company and as a sysadmin among others.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I had already organized some free software events, and stand for free
+</I>&gt;<i> software related group ( AUFML, python-fr ) and was a representative in
+</I>&gt;<i> the Mandriva assembly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have no linkedin profile, do not plan to create one nor to give my CV,
+</I>&gt;<i> sorry, but I can try to answer questions.
+</I>
+imho, no linkedin profile is necessary and your relevant work experience seems
+plainly given. I liked some way at least to have some evidence of working
+experience.
+
+for me this suffices.
+
+you have my vote to be the 2nd in command and given your workefforts, i'm sure
+you will not disappoint me.
+</PRE>
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+<I>Leandro Dorileo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001920.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001923.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001912.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001921.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001908.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001924.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="1924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001909.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001914.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001915.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001916.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001919.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001922.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001925.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="1925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001911.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001913.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001917.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001918.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Dec 27 22:31:39 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Dec 27 22:31:46 CET 2010</i>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Dec 27 07:20:09 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Dec 27 22:31:39 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 18<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001908.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001909.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001910.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Leandro Dorileo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001911.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001912.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001913.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001914.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001915.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001916.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001917.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001918.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001919.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001920.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001921.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001922.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001923.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001924.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="1924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001925.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="1925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Dec 27 22:31:39 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Dec 27 22:31:46 CET 2010</i>
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+ <h1>27 December 2010 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Dec 27 07:20:09 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Dec 27 22:31:39 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 18<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001910.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Leandro Dorileo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001911.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001912.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001914.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001915.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001917.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001924.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="1924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001925.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="1925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001908.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001909.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001916.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001919.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001920.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001921.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001922.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001923.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001913.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001918.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Dec 27 22:31:39 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Dec 27 22:31:46 CET 2010</i>
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+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Dec 27 07:20:09 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Dec 27 22:31:39 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 18<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01293430809- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001908.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01293430809-01293438556- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001909.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01293455564- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001910.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Leandro Dorileo
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01293455564-01293457001- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001912.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01293455564-01293457678- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001914.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01293456429- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001911.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01293456429-01293457782- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001915.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01293456429-01293457782-01293458798- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001917.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="1917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01293457451- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001913.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01293457451-01293457928- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001916.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01293457451-01293457928-01293460909- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001918.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01293457451-01293457928-01293460909-01293462516- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001919.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01293457451-01293457928-01293460909-01293462516-01293468763- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001920.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01293457451-01293457928-01293460909-01293462516-01293468763-01293472893- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001921.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01293457451-01293457928-01293460909-01293462516-01293468763-01293473605- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001922.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01293457451-01293457928-01293460909-01293462516-01293468763-01293473605-01293478396- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001923.html">[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly
+</A><A NAME="1923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01293481380- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001924.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="1924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01293481380-01293485499- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001925.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="1925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Dec 27 22:31:39 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Dec 27 22:31:46 CET 2010</i>
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