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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+ <I>Sat Dec 25 01:24:55 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Op zaterdag 25 december 2010 01:04:20 schreef andre999:
+&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 24 December 2010 13:02, Michael scherer&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 01:20:41AM +0100, Dexter Morgan wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Ahmad Samir&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On 24 December 2010 00:13, Maarten Vanraes&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Op donderdag 23 december 2010 22:23:56 schreef Ahmad Samir:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23 December 2010 22:01, Samuel Verschelde&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt;
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I remember some years ago you could choose the exact version of the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; package for which you reported a bug, from a list. I agree that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; improving the UI side helpers could be useful.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Regards
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Samuel Verschelde
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; As was said by dmorgan, listing each SRPM slowed down bugzilla a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; lot; the distro has a lot of SRPMS...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; an ajax search is better; it doesn't add much and only gets searched
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; if you enter at least 2 chars, or something like that.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; if such an ajax is wanted, i can write that if i can use
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; app-mageia-db or similar as a list.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; If the user doesn't know how to find the package info (rpm -q
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; packagname), no auto-complete is going to help much, he'll just pick
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; one of them randomly (top of the list, or bottom of the list). It's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; not much to ask for rpm -q output...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ahmad Samir
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; and this method is deprecated ( i mean the big list ) because this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; slow down too much the server.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The server, or the the browser ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ( because server side, that's just a SQL query likely in cache, while
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; browser side, you have to render a enormous 15 000 items list,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; with allocation of objects, etc, etc ).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Michael Scherer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Exactly. So if this get implemented I'd like it to be optional, i.e. I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; can still turn it off in my bugzilla preferences.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not only that, it should be off by default.
+</I>&gt;<i> End users tend to use the default configurations, and the last thing we
+</I>&gt;<i> need is a bugzilla so slow that end users will be dicouraged from
+</I>&gt;<i> reporting bugs.
+</I>&gt;<i> In my mind, it is triage and QA who would benefit the most from such a
+</I>&gt;<i> list. It seems if we were to have such a list, that it might be better to
+</I>&gt;<i> make it a separate (web) application, which could be referred to in a
+</I>&gt;<i> separtate tab/window, so it is charged only once for reviewing a number
+</I>&gt;<i> of bugs.
+</I>&gt;<i> But if triage/QA is not interested, it is better to avoid this big list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Another thought : maybe we should have separate rpm and srpm fields.
+</I>&gt;<i> Because end-users will relate more to ordinary rpm's, several of which
+</I>&gt;<i> could be generated by the same srpm.
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you think that would be useful ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> my 2 cents :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Andr&#233;
+</I>
+
+you guys don't get it; we propose solution so we DON'T NEED the huge list, but
+we can do it so:
+
+A) you don't have to wait on it
+B) it's in the background
+C) it only activates when you actually are typing something
+D) it's server side, so you're not having any trouble by it.
+</PRE>
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