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I agree that +</I>>>>>>>><i> improving the UI side helpers could be useful. +</I>>>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>>>><i> Regards +</I>>>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>>>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I>>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>>><i> As was said by dmorgan, listing each SRPM slowed down bugzilla a lot; +</I>>>>>>><i> the distro has a lot of SRPMS... +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> an ajax search is better; it doesn't add much and only gets searched if you +</I>>>>>><i> enter at least 2 chars, or something like that. +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> if such an ajax is wanted, i can write that if i can use app-mageia-db or +</I>>>>>><i> similar as a list. +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> If the user doesn't know how to find the package info (rpm -q +</I>>>>><i> packagname), no auto-complete is going to help much, he'll just pick +</I>>>>><i> one of them randomly (top of the list, or bottom of the list). It's +</I>>>>><i> not much to ask for rpm -q output... +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> -- +</I>>>>><i> Ahmad Samir +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> and this method is deprecated ( i mean the big list ) because this +</I>>>><i> slow down too much the server. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The server, or the the browser ? +</I>>><i> ( because server side, that's just a SQL query likely in cache, while +</I>>><i> browser side, you have to render a enormous 15 000 items list, +</I>>><i> with allocation of objects, etc, etc ). +</I>>><i> -- +</I>>><i> Michael Scherer +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Exactly. So if this get implemented I'd like it to be optional, i.e. I +</I>><i> can still turn it off in my bugzilla preferences. +</I> +Not only that, it should be off by default. +End users tend to use the default configurations, and the last thing we +need is a bugzilla so slow that end users will be dicouraged from +reporting bugs. +In my mind, it is triage and QA who would benefit the most from such a list. +It seems if we were to have such a list, that it might be better to make +it a separate (web) application, which could be referred to in a +separtate tab/window, so it is charged only once for reviewing a number +of bugs. +But if triage/QA is not interested, it is better to avoid this big list. + +Another thought : maybe we should have separate rpm and srpm fields. +Because end-users will relate more to ordinary rpm's, several of which +could be generated by the same srpm. +Do you think that would be useful ? + +my 2 cents :) + +André + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001890.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1889">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1889">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1889">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1889">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001890.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001890.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a5b97bd30 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001890.html @@ -0,0 +1,134 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C201012250124.56015.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001889.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001897.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C201012250124.56015.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 25 01:24:55 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001889.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001897.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1890">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1890">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1890">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1890">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op zaterdag 25 december 2010 01:04:20 schreef andre999: +><i> Ahmad Samir a écrit : +</I>><i> > On 24 December 2010 13:02, Michael scherer<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> >> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 01:20:41AM +0100, Dexter Morgan wrote: +</I>><i> >>> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Ahmad Samir<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>> +</I>wrote: +><i> >>>> On 24 December 2010 00:13, Maarten Vanraes<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> +</I>wrote: +><i> >>>>> Op donderdag 23 december 2010 22:23:56 schreef Ahmad Samir: +</I>><i> >>>>>> On 23 December 2010 22:01, Samuel Verschelde<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>> +</I>wrote: +><i> >>>>>>> I remember some years ago you could choose the exact version of the +</I>><i> >>>>>>> package for which you reported a bug, from a list. I agree that +</I>><i> >>>>>>> improving the UI side helpers could be useful. +</I>><i> >>>>>>> +</I>><i> >>>>>>> Regards +</I>><i> >>>>>>> +</I>><i> >>>>>>> Samuel Verschelde +</I>><i> >>>>>> +</I>><i> >>>>>> As was said by dmorgan, listing each SRPM slowed down bugzilla a +</I>><i> >>>>>> lot; the distro has a lot of SRPMS... +</I>><i> >>>>> +</I>><i> >>>>> an ajax search is better; it doesn't add much and only gets searched +</I>><i> >>>>> if you enter at least 2 chars, or something like that. +</I>><i> >>>>> +</I>><i> >>>>> if such an ajax is wanted, i can write that if i can use +</I>><i> >>>>> app-mageia-db or similar as a list. +</I>><i> >>>> +</I>><i> >>>> If the user doesn't know how to find the package info (rpm -q +</I>><i> >>>> packagname), no auto-complete is going to help much, he'll just pick +</I>><i> >>>> one of them randomly (top of the list, or bottom of the list). It's +</I>><i> >>>> not much to ask for rpm -q output... +</I>><i> >>>> +</I>><i> >>>> -- +</I>><i> >>>> Ahmad Samir +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> and this method is deprecated ( i mean the big list ) because this +</I>><i> >>> slow down too much the server. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> The server, or the the browser ? +</I>><i> >> ( because server side, that's just a SQL query likely in cache, while +</I>><i> >> browser side, you have to render a enormous 15 000 items list, +</I>><i> >> with allocation of objects, etc, etc ). +</I>><i> >> -- +</I>><i> >> Michael Scherer +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Exactly. So if this get implemented I'd like it to be optional, i.e. I +</I>><i> > can still turn it off in my bugzilla preferences. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not only that, it should be off by default. +</I>><i> End users tend to use the default configurations, and the last thing we +</I>><i> need is a bugzilla so slow that end users will be dicouraged from +</I>><i> reporting bugs. +</I>><i> In my mind, it is triage and QA who would benefit the most from such a +</I>><i> list. It seems if we were to have such a list, that it might be better to +</I>><i> make it a separate (web) application, which could be referred to in a +</I>><i> separtate tab/window, so it is charged only once for reviewing a number +</I>><i> of bugs. +</I>><i> But if triage/QA is not interested, it is better to avoid this big list. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Another thought : maybe we should have separate rpm and srpm fields. +</I>><i> Because end-users will relate more to ordinary rpm's, several of which +</I>><i> could be generated by the same srpm. +</I>><i> Do you think that would be useful ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> my 2 cents :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> André +</I> + +you guys don't get it; we propose solution so we DON'T NEED the huge list, but +we can do it so: + +A) you don't have to wait on it +B) it's in the background +C) it only activates when you actually are typing something +D) it's server side, so you're not having any trouble by it. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001889.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001897.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1890">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1890">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1890">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1890">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001891.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001891.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..16173c2f7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001891.html @@ -0,0 +1,114 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C4D15B6D9.7050506%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001897.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001892.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C4D15B6D9.7050506%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 25 10:18:17 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001897.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001892.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1891">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1891">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1891">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1891">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Maarten Vanraes a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> Op donderdag 23 december 2010 22:23:56 schreef Ahmad Samir: +</I>>><i> On 23 December 2010 22:01, Samuel Verschelde<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>> wrote: +</I>>>><i> I remember some years ago you could choose the exact version of the +</I>>>><i> package for which you reported a bug, from a list. I agree that +</I>>>><i> improving the UI side helpers could be useful. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Regards +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> As was said by dmorgan, listing each SRPM slowed down bugzilla a lot; +</I>>><i> the distro has a lot of SRPMS... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> an ajax search is better; it doesn't add much and only gets searched if you +</I>><i> enter at least 2 chars, or something like that. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> if such an ajax is wanted, i can write that if i can use app-mageia-db or +</I>><i> similar as a list. +</I> +OK, I did a little search on Ajax, and I think that I understand now. +It seems that you're proposing autocompletion on the text typed in the +field - and only matches will be downloaded. +But if it starts with 2 characters, there could be still 1000's of names +downloaded. +I would suggest that we would need at least 5 characters to restrict the +names downloaded to a reasonable number. + +Also, there is another factor. If we are looking for srpm names, but +the user enters binary rpm names, there will not necessarily be a match, +particularly if the srpm results in more than one binary rpm. +So in some cases this will not work. + +But I have another idea. +Maybe we could have separate (binary) rpm and srpm fields. +There is a button on the page, which will invoke the command to give the +srpms associated with the binary rpms. +Would this be workable ? +Something that would execute + $ rpm -q --qf '{sourcerpm}' {pkg-name} +and would automatically enter the result in the srpm field, or at least +display it so it could be typed in. + +Of course, this would have to be done by the user experiencing the +problems, to ensure having the correct version. +We would also have to deal with the cases where more than one rpm has +the bug. + +If we can automate this, we can dispense with the potential problems +associated with a list of srpms. And it would be (at least somewhat) +more efficient both server and client side, as well. + +Just an idea + +André + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001897.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001892.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1891">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1891">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1891">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1891">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001892.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001892.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..613805712 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001892.html @@ -0,0 +1,124 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C201012251054.32276.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001891.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001893.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C201012251054.32276.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 25 10:54:32 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001891.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001893.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1892">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1892">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1892">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1892">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op zaterdag 25 december 2010 10:18:17 schreef andre999: +><i> Maarten Vanraes a écrit : +</I>><i> > Op donderdag 23 december 2010 22:23:56 schreef Ahmad Samir: +</I>><i> >> On 23 December 2010 22:01, Samuel Verschelde<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> >>> I remember some years ago you could choose the exact version of the +</I>><i> >>> package for which you reported a bug, from a list. I agree that +</I>><i> >>> improving the UI side helpers could be useful. +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> Regards +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> Samuel Verschelde +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> As was said by dmorgan, listing each SRPM slowed down bugzilla a lot; +</I>><i> >> the distro has a lot of SRPMS... +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > an ajax search is better; it doesn't add much and only gets searched if +</I>><i> > you enter at least 2 chars, or something like that. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > if such an ajax is wanted, i can write that if i can use app-mageia-db or +</I>><i> > similar as a list. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> OK, I did a little search on Ajax, and I think that I understand now. +</I>><i> It seems that you're proposing autocompletion on the text typed in the +</I>><i> field - and only matches will be downloaded. +</I>><i> But if it starts with 2 characters, there could be still 1000's of names +</I>><i> downloaded. +</I>><i> I would suggest that we would need at least 5 characters to restrict the +</I>><i> names downloaded to a reasonable number. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Also, there is another factor. If we are looking for srpm names, but +</I>><i> the user enters binary rpm names, there will not necessarily be a match, +</I>><i> particularly if the srpm results in more than one binary rpm. +</I>><i> So in some cases this will not work. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But I have another idea. +</I>><i> Maybe we could have separate (binary) rpm and srpm fields. +</I>><i> There is a button on the page, which will invoke the command to give the +</I>><i> srpms associated with the binary rpms. +</I>><i> Would this be workable ? +</I>><i> Something that would execute +</I>><i> $ rpm -q --qf '{sourcerpm}' {pkg-name} +</I>><i> and would automatically enter the result in the srpm field, or at least +</I>><i> display it so it could be typed in. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course, this would have to be done by the user experiencing the +</I>><i> problems, to ensure having the correct version. +</I>><i> We would also have to deal with the cases where more than one rpm has +</I>><i> the bug. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If we can automate this, we can dispense with the potential problems +</I>><i> associated with a list of srpms. And it would be (at least somewhat) +</I>><i> more efficient both server and client side, as well. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Just an idea +</I>><i> +</I>><i> André +</I> +this is no more than sort of TAB completion on the urpmi commands. + +averagely 2 characters have ~600 possibilities; meaning that 2 chars give +average 25 srpm results. in practice this can be 150 results or something + +consider also the fact that these are src.rpm , so huge lib**** and the fact +that we won't be starting with everything... + +imho instead of destroying an idea you don't know much about; why don't i +implement it and then you can evaluate if it's bad or not. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001891.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001893.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1892">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1892">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1892">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1892">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001893.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001893.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..afb8fe1ea --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001893.html @@ -0,0 +1,165 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C4D15CF3A.3080403%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001892.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001894.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C4D15CF3A.3080403%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 25 12:02:18 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001892.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001894.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1893">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1893">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1893">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1893">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Maarten Vanraes a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> Op zaterdag 25 december 2010 10:18:17 schreef andre999: +</I>>><i> Maarten Vanraes a écrit : +</I>>>><i> Op donderdag 23 december 2010 22:23:56 schreef Ahmad Samir: +</I>>>>><i> On 23 December 2010 22:01, Samuel Verschelde<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>> wrote: +</I>>>>>><i> I remember some years ago you could choose the exact version of the +</I>>>>>><i> package for which you reported a bug, from a list. I agree that +</I>>>>>><i> improving the UI side helpers could be useful. +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> Regards +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> As was said by dmorgan, listing each SRPM slowed down bugzilla a lot; +</I>>>>><i> the distro has a lot of SRPMS... +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> an ajax search is better; it doesn't add much and only gets searched if +</I>>>><i> you enter at least 2 chars, or something like that. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> if such an ajax is wanted, i can write that if i can use app-mageia-db or +</I>>>><i> similar as a list. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> OK, I did a little search on Ajax, and I think that I understand now. +</I>>><i> It seems that you're proposing autocompletion on the text typed in the +</I>>><i> field - and only matches will be downloaded. +</I>>><i> But if it starts with 2 characters, there could be still 1000's of names +</I>>><i> downloaded. +</I>>><i> I would suggest that we would need at least 5 characters to restrict the +</I>>><i> names downloaded to a reasonable number. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Also, there is another factor. If we are looking for srpm names, but +</I>>><i> the user enters binary rpm names, there will not necessarily be a match, +</I>>><i> particularly if the srpm results in more than one binary rpm. +</I>>><i> So in some cases this will not work. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> But I have another idea. +</I>>><i> Maybe we could have separate (binary) rpm and srpm fields. +</I>>><i> There is a button on the page, which will invoke the command to give the +</I>>><i> srpms associated with the binary rpms. +</I>>><i> Would this be workable ? +</I>>><i> Something that would execute +</I>>><i> $ rpm -q --qf '{sourcerpm}' {pkg-name} +</I>>><i> and would automatically enter the result in the srpm field, or at least +</I>>><i> display it so it could be typed in. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Of course, this would have to be done by the user experiencing the +</I>>><i> problems, to ensure having the correct version. +</I>>><i> We would also have to deal with the cases where more than one rpm has +</I>>><i> the bug. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> If we can automate this, we can dispense with the potential problems +</I>>><i> associated with a list of srpms. And it would be (at least somewhat) +</I>>><i> more efficient both server and client side, as well. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Just an idea +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> André +</I>><i> +</I>><i> this is no more than sort of TAB completion on the urpmi commands. +</I> +That part I understand. +Only these values will be downloaded, so some online traffic. + +><i> averagely 2 characters have ~600 possibilities; meaning that 2 chars give +</I>><i> average 25 srpm results. in practice this can be 150 results or something +</I> +Your numbers are right. Obviously I had one too many zeros. + +><i> consider also the fact that these are src.rpm , so huge lib**** and the fact +</I>><i> that we won't be starting with everything... +</I> +I was thinking of lib*, which is why I said more than 3 characters. + +><i> imho instead of destroying an idea you don't know much about; why don't i +</I>><i> implement it and then you can evaluate if it's bad or not. +</I> +Actually, I was trying brainstorming. We all know that such ideas don't +necessarily lead anywhere. +It is certain that your idea is a lot better than it first appeared. + +However, invoking the rpm command has certain advantages. +Most importantly, if done on the system of the user finding the bug, it +reports exactly the correct version of the srpm. + +For example, on my system, if I type in the console exactly : + +rpm -q --qf '%{sourcerpm}' binutils + +_without_ the version, it returns : + +binutils-2.19.51.0.2-1mnb2.src.rpm + +_with_ the version, which is exactly what we want. + +So I have a suggestion. +With your Ajax skills, I imagine that you would be capable of setting a +button which automatically invokes that command on a binary rpm field, +to fill a srpm field ? +Could you try that as well ? +If it works, then I think we would have a better solution. + +I could try it, but my html/javascript skills are quite limited. +Just a suggestion. + +Regards + +André +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001892.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001894.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1893">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1893">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1893">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1893">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001894.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001894.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8ff57eca7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001894.html @@ -0,0 +1,179 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C201012251227.19056.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001893.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001898.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C201012251227.19056.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 25 12:27:18 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001893.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001898.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1894">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1894">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1894">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1894">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op zaterdag 25 december 2010 12:02:18 schreef andre999: +><i> Maarten Vanraes a écrit : +</I>><i> > Op zaterdag 25 december 2010 10:18:17 schreef andre999: +</I>><i> >> Maarten Vanraes a écrit : +</I>><i> >>> Op donderdag 23 december 2010 22:23:56 schreef Ahmad Samir: +</I>><i> >>>> On 23 December 2010 22:01, Samuel Verschelde<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>> +</I>wrote: +><i> >>>>> I remember some years ago you could choose the exact version of the +</I>><i> >>>>> package for which you reported a bug, from a list. I agree that +</I>><i> >>>>> improving the UI side helpers could be useful. +</I>><i> >>>>> +</I>><i> >>>>> Regards +</I>><i> >>>>> +</I>><i> >>>>> Samuel Verschelde +</I>><i> >>>> +</I>><i> >>>> As was said by dmorgan, listing each SRPM slowed down bugzilla a lot; +</I>><i> >>>> the distro has a lot of SRPMS... +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> an ajax search is better; it doesn't add much and only gets searched if +</I>><i> >>> you enter at least 2 chars, or something like that. +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> if such an ajax is wanted, i can write that if i can use app-mageia-db +</I>><i> >>> or similar as a list. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> OK, I did a little search on Ajax, and I think that I understand now. +</I>><i> >> It seems that you're proposing autocompletion on the text typed in the +</I>><i> >> field - and only matches will be downloaded. +</I>><i> >> But if it starts with 2 characters, there could be still 1000's of names +</I>><i> >> downloaded. +</I>><i> >> I would suggest that we would need at least 5 characters to restrict the +</I>><i> >> names downloaded to a reasonable number. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Also, there is another factor. If we are looking for srpm names, but +</I>><i> >> the user enters binary rpm names, there will not necessarily be a match, +</I>><i> >> particularly if the srpm results in more than one binary rpm. +</I>><i> >> So in some cases this will not work. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> But I have another idea. +</I>><i> >> Maybe we could have separate (binary) rpm and srpm fields. +</I>><i> >> There is a button on the page, which will invoke the command to give the +</I>><i> >> srpms associated with the binary rpms. +</I>><i> >> Would this be workable ? +</I>><i> >> Something that would execute +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> $ rpm -q --qf '{sourcerpm}' {pkg-name} +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> and would automatically enter the result in the srpm field, or at least +</I>><i> >> display it so it could be typed in. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Of course, this would have to be done by the user experiencing the +</I>><i> >> problems, to ensure having the correct version. +</I>><i> >> We would also have to deal with the cases where more than one rpm has +</I>><i> >> the bug. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> If we can automate this, we can dispense with the potential problems +</I>><i> >> associated with a list of srpms. And it would be (at least somewhat) +</I>><i> >> more efficient both server and client side, as well. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Just an idea +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> André +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > this is no more than sort of TAB completion on the urpmi commands. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That part I understand. +</I>><i> Only these values will be downloaded, so some online traffic. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > averagely 2 characters have ~600 possibilities; meaning that 2 chars give +</I>><i> > average 25 srpm results. in practice this can be 150 results or something +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Your numbers are right. Obviously I had one too many zeros. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > consider also the fact that these are src.rpm , so huge lib**** and the +</I>><i> > fact that we won't be starting with everything... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I was thinking of lib*, which is why I said more than 3 characters. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > imho instead of destroying an idea you don't know much about; why don't i +</I>><i> > implement it and then you can evaluate if it's bad or not. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Actually, I was trying brainstorming. We all know that such ideas don't +</I>><i> necessarily lead anywhere. +</I>><i> It is certain that your idea is a lot better than it first appeared. +</I> +yeah, sorry, i (and misc) just am trying to suggest an idea that gets broken +off by people who don't even seem to get it; coupled with less sleep and my +cranky, i could've worded it better + +><i> However, invoking the rpm command has certain advantages. +</I>><i> Most importantly, if done on the system of the user finding the bug, it +</I>><i> reports exactly the correct version of the srpm. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For example, on my system, if I type in the console exactly : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> rpm -q --qf '%{sourcerpm}' binutils +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _without_ the version, it returns : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> binutils-2.19.51.0.2-1mnb2.src.rpm +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _with_ the version, which is exactly what we want. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So I have a suggestion. +</I>><i> With your Ajax skills, I imagine that you would be capable of setting a +</I>><i> button which automatically invokes that command on a binary rpm field, +</I>><i> to fill a srpm field ? +</I>><i> Could you try that as well ? +</I>><i> If it works, then I think we would have a better solution. +</I> +i'm not certain that is required, iirc, the command to find this stuff is out +there; and the info can be found on mageia-app-db i think. + +however, if it isn't a src.rpm but a perfect match for a binary rpm, i guess +we could return the src.rpm instead. + +><i> I could try it, but my html/javascript skills are quite limited. +</I>><i> Just a suggestion. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> André +</I></PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001893.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001898.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1894">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1894">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1894">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1894">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001895.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001895.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3e19a53c8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001895.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C20101225192024.GC12356%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001898.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001896.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla</H1> + <B>Michael scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C20101225192024.GC12356%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 25 20:20:24 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001898.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001896.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1895">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1895">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1895">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1895">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 06:02:18AM -0500, andre999 wrote: +><i> However, invoking the rpm command has certain advantages. +</I>><i> Most importantly, if done on the system of the user finding the bug, +</I>><i> it reports exactly the correct version of the srpm. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For example, on my system, if I type in the console exactly : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> rpm -q --qf '%{sourcerpm}' binutils +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _without_ the version, it returns : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> binutils-2.19.51.0.2-1mnb2.src.rpm +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _with_ the version, which is exactly what we want. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So I have a suggestion. +</I>><i> With your Ajax skills, I imagine that you would be capable of +</I>><i> setting a button which automatically invokes that command on a +</I>><i> binary rpm field, to fill a srpm field ? +</I>><i> Could you try that as well ? +</I>><i> If it works, then I think we would have a better solution. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I could try it, but my html/javascript skills are quite limited. +</I>><i> Just a suggestion. +</I> +Javascript cannot invoke command on the user computer for obvious +reason of security. I guess, no one want a random webpage +to run rm -Rf ~ or similar harmful command. + +We could however use some exploit in firefox or epiphany for +that... + +Not to mention that running rpm would only work on installed rpm, which would not +help if the bug is "cannot install rpm". +-- +Michael Scherer +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001898.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001896.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1895">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1895">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1895">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1895">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001896.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001896.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..11337ec7a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001896.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Choosing%20packagers%20representatives&In-Reply-To=%3C4D1647CA.1040006%40yahoo.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001895.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives</H1> + <B>Xavier Bertaux</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Choosing%20packagers%20representatives&In-Reply-To=%3C4D1647CA.1040006%40yahoo.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives">bertauxx at yahoo.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 25 20:36:42 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001895.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1896">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1896">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1896">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1896">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 22/12/2010 21:22, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : +><i> Op maandag 20 december 2010 23:19:11 schreef Anne nicolas: +</I>>><i> Hi there +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> - experience in packaging +</I>>>><i> - willing to *manage* team +</I>>>><i> - start with these 2 guys until first release is done (as done in i18n +</I>>>><i> team) +</I>>><i> I'm applying for packagers reprentative rather on general management +</I>>><i> side (organization,meetings, planning...)for the 5 coming months. I +</I>>><i> would like to help in order to have a good start then when people know +</I>>><i> each other new representatives are elected. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I've been working in engineering team in Mandriva for the 6 last years +</I>>><i> doing some packaging, working on isos release and managing relations +</I>>><i> with Mandriva community. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> My full profile here: <A HREF="http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=4195950">http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=4195950</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Cheers +</I>><i> I nominate Anne, if she's backed by an expert(god-level) packager +</I>I nominate Anne too ! + +Cheers +Xavier +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001895.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1896">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1896">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1896">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1896">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001897.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001897.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a7a2f4784 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/001897.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinmT6r8Wku0P7kVxhYDzkLa6_pzfDLzc7%2B3p%3D99%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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coupled with less sleep and my +</I>><i> cranky, i could've worded it better +</I>><i> +</I> +Again, as I said I don't care if it gets implemented or not. + +What I said was "if this gets implemented, make it optional", I hope +you got that part :) + +(FWIW, I manually disable the urpmi rpm-package-name-auto-completion +feature on all my installs, takes too long and is pretty much useless +to me; I can find all variations of a part of a package name with +'urpmq -y' when I actually need it). + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001894.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001895.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1898">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1898">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1898">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1898">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..72b6d2fa5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101225/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 25 December 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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