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One thing mageia-app-db +</I>><i> >>>>> will do is search all bugs affecting an rpm. For that search to be +</I>><i> >>>>> meaningfull all affected rpms should be mentioned. +</I>><i> >>>> +</I>><i> >>>> 'One bug per report' is what we should do (did); if a bug originates +</I>><i> >>>> from more than one package, a separate report for each of them should +</I>><i> >>>> be opened with the Block/Dependency set correctly. +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> Sorry for not beeing clear. +</I>><i> >>> What I propose is not for the case 'a bug originates from more than +</I>><i> >>> one package'; +</I>><i> >>> but for the case 'a bug manifests itself in than one package'. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> A bug that manifests in more than one package must originate from +</I>><i> >> 'some package', that 'some package' is the only one that should be in +</I>><i> >> the 'RPM Package' field; i.e that's the package that's going to need +</I>><i> >> fixing. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Sorry again, what I mean, and should have written, is : +</I>><i> > 'a bug manifests itself in one package, but in more than one -version-release'. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There's no way in bugzilla to do this at the moment (there's talk +</I>><i> about this being implemented in bugzilla-4.0, which I haven't tried +</I>><i> before). Traditionally the Whiteboard field was used for such issues +</I>><i> (or separate reports were opened for each affected stable release). +</I>><i> Having a multi-line RPM Package wouldn't be the way to go with this +</I>><i> (IMHO). +</I>><i> +</I> +In fact I think Frederic was talking about several versions of the same package, not necessarily several versions of the distribution. However, I don't think we can or should ask people to write down every package version which has the bug. + +We can guess many things automatically, provided the information is of good quality (the RPM/SRPM field always has a complete filename in it, and all affected versions of the distribution are flagged, whatever the way used for that : multivalue field when it'll be possible, whiteboard meanwhile...). + +For those who don't wan't to read everything, example 1 may be enough, I'm just trying to cover several cases, not that every case brings something really important to the discussion. My point in those examples is that we can provide useful information regarding bugs on packages in software managers or mageia-app-db, but that depends on the information present in the bug reports, that's what I'd like this to be taken into account in bug handling processes. + + +-- Example 1 : bug in stable release (core/release) + cauldron -- + +foo-3.4-1mga2011.0.src.rpm has a bug in Mageia 2011.0 (stable release, the package is in core/release), and the bug is also present in cauldron. We know it is in 2011.0/core/release because we have the exact SRPM name and affected distribution versions in the bug report. + +1) 2011.0/core/release contains foo-3.4-1mga2011.0.src.rpm +2) 2011.0/core/updates contains foo-3.4-2mga2011.0.src.rpm +3) 2011.0/core/updates_testing contains foo-3.4-3mga2011.0.src.rpm +4) 2011.0/core/backports contains foo-3.5-1mga2011.0.src.rpm +5) 2011.0/core/backports_testing contains foo-3.5-2mga2011.0.src.rpm +6) cauldron contains foo-3.5-1mga2011.1.src.rpm + +Now suppose we are in mageia-app-db, on each of those SRPMs' page (or on the RPMs pages that have those SRPMs as source RPMs). What can we tell regarding the bug we are talking about ? + +1) bug is present, this is the exact version that has the bug +2) bug is present, because the bug report is still open +3) we can't tell, that's a testing package. We can at least say : "the current version in core/updates has the following bugs, maybe this testing package fixes them ? Please consult the following bug reports and test" +4) trickier. I would try the following guess : bug is still open in cauldron, so it's probably present in the backport too. However if the bug is fixed in cauldron we can say nothing more than : "the version in updates has the bug, cauldron hasn't, maybe the backport also hasn't the bug?". +5) same as 4) +6) easy : if cauldron is still mentioned in the bug report (as the version or on the whiteboard), then the bug is still valid. If there was a separate bug report which is closed, then the bug is fixed. + +Of course I assume we don't close a bug as fixed on a stable distribution version if there was no update to fix the bug (update, not backport). + + +-- Example 2 : bug in stable release (core/updates) + cauldron -- + +foo-3.4-2mga2011.0.src.rpm has a bug in Mageia 2011.0 (stable release, the package is in core/release), and the bug is also present in cauldron. + +Same as example 1, except that we cannot tell if the bug is present in case 1) : 2011/core/release +- either it wasn't and was introduced in an update +- or it was already there + +What we would do in mageia-app-db is tell "an update for this RPM has a the following bug, it may or may not be also present in this package". However in this case few people are still interested in the package in core/release (we may even hide those packages by default when there's an update and keep them only for advanced users). + + +-- Example 3 : bug in stable release (core/updates_testing) -- + +foo-3.4-3mga2011.0.src.rpm has a bug in Mageia 2011.0 (stable release, the package is in core/updates_testing). + +1) we can't say much, so we'll not show this bug report +2) we can't say much, so we'll not show this bug report +3) that's the package which has the bug +4) not concerned +5) not concerned +6) not concerned + +You could say "Hey, this example shows nothing useful", and at first I thought the same, but in fact because we know the exact version of package which has the bug (thanks to the RPM/SRPM field + distribution version field) we know we won't bother users about this bug if they consult 1), 2), 4), 5) or 6). + + +-- Example 4 : bug in stable release (core/backports) -- + +foo-3.5-1mga2011.0.src.rpm has a bug in Mageia 2011.0 (stable release, the package is in core/backports). + +1) we can't say much, so we'll not show this bug report +2) we can't say much, so we'll not show this bug report +3) we can't say much, so we'll not show this bug report +4) that's the package which has the bug +5) we can't tell, that's a testing package. We can at least say : "the current version in core/backports has the following bugs, maybe this testing package fixes them ? Please consult the following bug reports and test" +6) we can't tell, but it's interesting to mention that the package in 4) has the bug, they may be related + + + +Regards + +Samuel Verschelde +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001874.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1865">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1865">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1865">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1865">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001866.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001866.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e84323b5d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001866.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Choosing%20packagers%20representatives&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DVWhB_R0_-4mPzHThURAd-eDptUtTwCP3NQ-A%3D%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001880.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001868.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives</H1> + <B>Pascal Terjan</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Choosing%20packagers%20representatives&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DVWhB_R0_-4mPzHThURAd-eDptUtTwCP3NQ-A%3D%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives">pterjan at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 23 11:51:31 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001880.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001868.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1866">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1866">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1866">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1866">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 20:22, Maarten Vanraes +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Op maandag 20 december 2010 23:19:11 schreef Anne nicolas: +</I>>><i> Hi there +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> > - experience in packaging +</I>>><i> > - willing to *manage* team +</I>>><i> > - start with these 2 guys until first release is done (as done in i18n +</I>>><i> > team) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I'm applying for packagers reprentative rather on general management +</I>>><i> side (organization,meetings, planning...)for the 5 coming months. I +</I>>><i> would like to help in order to have a good start then when people know +</I>>><i> each other new representatives are elected. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I've been working in engineering team in Mandriva for the 6 last years +</I>>><i> doing some packaging, working on isos release and managing relations +</I>>><i> with Mandriva community. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> My full profile here: <A HREF="http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=4195950">http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=4195950</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Cheers +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I nominate Anne, if she's backed by an expert(god-level) packager +</I>><i> +</I>Do you have a link to packages from god, to get an idea of his level? +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001880.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001868.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1866">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1866">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1866">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1866">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001867.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001867.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..810dc7731 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001867.html @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Choosing%20packagers%20representatives&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinc%3DT7dFr3gDqUrbqzRyDw6c%3DYpEfcwtPi_wyPw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001872.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001869.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Choosing%20packagers%20representatives&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinc%3DT7dFr3gDqUrbqzRyDw6c%3DYpEfcwtPi_wyPw%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 23 12:00:20 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001872.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001869.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1867">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1867">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1867">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1867">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/12/23 Pascal Terjan <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> Do you have a link to packages from god, to get an idea of his level? +</I> +According to the manual (aka bible) I am a package packed and +maintained by god. :) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001872.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001869.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1867">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1867">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1867">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1867">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001868.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001868.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..daad01ed8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001868.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Choosing%20packagers%20representatives&In-Reply-To=%3C201012231200.18701.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001866.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001872.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Choosing%20packagers%20representatives&In-Reply-To=%3C201012231200.18701.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 23 12:00:18 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001866.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001872.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1868">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1868">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1868">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1868">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op donderdag 23 december 2010 11:51:31 schreef Pascal Terjan: +><i> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 20:22, Maarten Vanraes +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > Op maandag 20 december 2010 23:19:11 schreef Anne nicolas: +</I>><i> >> Hi there +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> > - experience in packaging +</I>><i> >> > - willing to *manage* team +</I>><i> >> > - start with these 2 guys until first release is done (as done in i18n +</I>><i> >> > team) +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> I'm applying for packagers reprentative rather on general management +</I>><i> >> side (organization,meetings, planning...)for the 5 coming months. I +</I>><i> >> would like to help in order to have a good start then when people know +</I>><i> >> each other new representatives are elected. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> I've been working in engineering team in Mandriva for the 6 last years +</I>><i> >> doing some packaging, working on isos release and managing relations +</I>><i> >> with Mandriva community. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> My full profile here: <A HREF="http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=4195950">http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=4195950</A> +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Cheers +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I nominate Anne, if she's backed by an expert(god-level) packager +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Do you have a link to packages from god, to get an idea of his level? +</I> +mageia-app-db isn't online yet :-P + +that being said, is that a candidacy from yourself? +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001866.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001872.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1868">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1868">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1868">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1868">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001869.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001869.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a44e3e6f2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001869.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Choosing%20packagers%20representatives&In-Reply-To=%3Cc0d7e388cf4050de5377b8870d3c1486%40localhost%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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I +</I>>><i> >> would like to help in order to have a good start then when people know +</I>>><i> >> each other new representatives are elected. +</I>>><i> >> +</I>>><i> >> I've been working in engineering team in Mandriva for the 6 last years +</I>>><i> >> doing some packaging, working on isos release and managing relations +</I>>><i> >> with Mandriva community. +</I>>><i> >> +</I>>><i> >> My full profile here: <A HREF="http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=4195950">http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=4195950</A> +</I>>><i> >> +</I>>><i> >> Cheers +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > I nominate Anne, if she's backed by an expert(god-level) packager +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Do you have a link to packages from god, to get an idea of his level? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> mageia-app-db isn't online yet :-P +</I>><i> +</I>><i> that being said, is that a candidacy from yourself? +</I> +No, I don't want any responsability right now (at least until I have +internet at home) +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001868.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001867.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1872">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1872">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1872">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1872">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001873.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001873.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b9357f304 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001873.html @@ -0,0 +1,172 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D8JvbqaKhDjAv24N%3DGtAAgqWeQP2fpTBfGWsdK%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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+</I>>><i> > as far as I know that would be : +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > name-version-release +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > unless the bug is architecture specific, where we would have : +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > name-version-release.architecture +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> There is already a "architecture" field, afaik, as well as a version field, +</I>>><i> no ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> ( I didn't check as I refuse to enter my password over a insecured http session ). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> And I think that giving rpm ( and not srpm ) will make search a little bit complex +</I>>><i> in some corner cases ( can will also cause problem for the next point ). +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So you think the (S)RPM field should only contain SRPM filenames ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If yes, I agree with that, because as Frederic stated above, in current Mandriva bugzilla, there's no enforced rule for that. You can put anything in the field, and you often end up with rpm filenames, or simple package names (e.g. "virtualbox"). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> However asking bug reporters to know the SRPM is too much, so this rule can only be enforced on Packagers and Triage Team side I think. This is already how it works on qa.mandriva.com : if you know the SRPM, you put it, if not someone will triage and do it for you. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ahmad, would there be a problem in enforcing such a policy (i.e. SRPM field should be empty or contain a valid SRPM name ? Where valid means "looks like the name of a SRPM") ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I>><i> +</I> +Actually virtualbox is a valid enough SRPM name, because if you put +virtualbox in the "RPM Package" field bugzilla will auto-assign to the +package maintainer. And putting the arch. of the package in that field +isn't so useful, there's a separate Architecture field in each report. + +How do you wanna enforce this? by rejecting anything the user puts in +that field if it's not correct? well, I expect that we'll get less +reports this way, good from the triage team workload POV :), bad from +the POV that some important reports won't be filed because the user +doesn't understand what you want him to do. + +I have no problem with having a report with a wrong content in the RPM +Package field, that can be fixed. So no, I am not OK with enforcing +anything here, just offering this as a guide line that it should be +'kwrite-4.5.5-1mga' rather than just 'kwrite' or 'kwrite-4.5.5' is the +best you can hope for. + +(IMHO, mageia-app-db should be more versatile in the way it searches +bug reports, note that almost at any given point in time there'll be +reports that haven't been triaged yet, and so can have an empty or a +wrong content in the RPM Package field) + + +And about it being hard to find the name of the package, it depends, +do you think users reporting a bug read? if they read the little +paragraph under the Source RPM field here: +<A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Mandriva%20Linux&format=guided">https://qa.mandriva.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Mandriva%20Linux&format=guided</A> +you'll find that it states exactly how to find the src.rpm name :) + +The point is, such things come with time and experience with bug +reporting, I don't expect a user to get it right the first time, but +if he still doesn't get it right with his say 15th bug report, then he +doesn't take enough care when filing the report.... and I can assure +you by that time he'll have been notified more than once about what +should be done (by triage team members, devs, package maintainers... +etc). + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001871.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001879.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1873">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1873">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1873">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1873">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001874.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001874.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..69bed70c7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001874.html @@ -0,0 +1,135 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimWQWd7yw_S6izf7RpjEzvXkWLxwBJVA8288tud%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001865.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001876.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimWQWd7yw_S6izf7RpjEzvXkWLxwBJVA8288tud%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 23 15:29:15 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001865.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001876.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1874">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1874">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1874">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1874">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 23 December 2010 01:43, Samuel Verschelde <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>> wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> In fact I think Frederic was talking about several versions of the same package, not necessarily several versions of the distribution. However, I don't think we can or should ask people to write down every package version which has the bug. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We can guess many things automatically, provided the information is of good quality (the RPM/SRPM field always has a complete filename in it, and all affected versions of the distribution are flagged, whatever the way used for that : multivalue field when it'll be possible, whiteboard meanwhile...). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For those who don't wan't to read everything, example 1 may be enough, I'm just trying to cover several cases, not that every case brings something really important to the discussion. My point in those examples is that we can provide useful information regarding bugs on packages in software managers or mageia-app-db, but that depends on the information present in the bug reports, that's what I'd like this to be taken into account in bug handling processes. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- Example 1 : bug in stable release (core/release) + cauldron -- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> foo-3.4-1mga2011.0.src.rpm has a bug in Mageia 2011.0 (stable release, the package is in core/release), and the bug is also present in cauldron. We know it is in 2011.0/core/release because we have the exact SRPM name and affected distribution versions in the bug report. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1) 2011.0/core/release contains foo-3.4-1mga2011.0.src.rpm +</I>><i> 2) 2011.0/core/updates contains foo-3.4-2mga2011.0.src.rpm +</I>><i> 3) 2011.0/core/updates_testing contains foo-3.4-3mga2011.0.src.rpm +</I>><i> 4) 2011.0/core/backports contains foo-3.5-1mga2011.0.src.rpm +</I>><i> 5) 2011.0/core/backports_testing contains foo-3.5-2mga2011.0.src.rpm +</I>><i> 6) cauldron contains foo-3.5-1mga2011.1.src.rpm +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now suppose we are in mageia-app-db, on each of those SRPMs' page (or on the RPMs pages that have those SRPMs as source RPMs). What can we tell regarding the bug we are talking about ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1) bug is present, this is the exact version that has the bug +</I>><i> 2) bug is present, because the bug report is still open +</I>><i> 3) we can't tell, that's a testing package. We can at least say : "the current version in core/updates has the following bugs, maybe this testing package fixes them ? Please consult the following bug reports and test" +</I>><i> 4) trickier. I would try the following guess : bug is still open in cauldron, so it's probably present in the backport too. However if the bug is fixed in cauldron we can say nothing more than : "the version in updates has the bug, cauldron hasn't, maybe the backport also hasn't the bug?". +</I>><i> 5) same as 4) +</I>><i> 6) easy : if cauldron is still mentioned in the bug report (as the version or on the whiteboard), then the bug is still valid. If there was a separate bug report which is closed, then the bug is fixed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course I assume we don't close a bug as fixed on a stable distribution version if there was no update to fix the bug (update, not backport). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- Example 2 : bug in stable release (core/updates) + cauldron -- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> foo-3.4-2mga2011.0.src.rpm has a bug in Mageia 2011.0 (stable release, the package is in core/release), and the bug is also present in cauldron. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Same as example 1, except that we cannot tell if the bug is present in case 1) : 2011/core/release +</I>><i> - either it wasn't and was introduced in an update +</I>><i> - or it was already there +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What we would do in mageia-app-db is tell "an update for this RPM has a the following bug, it may or may not be also present in this package". However in this case few people are still interested in the package in core/release (we may even hide those packages by default when there's an update and keep them only for advanced users). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- Example 3 : bug in stable release (core/updates_testing) -- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> foo-3.4-3mga2011.0.src.rpm has a bug in Mageia 2011.0 (stable release, the package is in core/updates_testing). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1) we can't say much, so we'll not show this bug report +</I>><i> 2) we can't say much, so we'll not show this bug report +</I>><i> 3) that's the package which has the bug +</I>><i> 4) not concerned +</I>><i> 5) not concerned +</I>><i> 6) not concerned +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You could say "Hey, this example shows nothing useful", and at first I thought the same, but in fact because we know the exact version of package which has the bug (thanks to the RPM/SRPM field + distribution version field) we know we won't bother users about this bug if they consult 1), 2), 4), 5) or 6). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- Example 4 : bug in stable release (core/backports) -- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> foo-3.5-1mga2011.0.src.rpm has a bug in Mageia 2011.0 (stable release, the package is in core/backports). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1) we can't say much, so we'll not show this bug report +</I>><i> 2) we can't say much, so we'll not show this bug report +</I>><i> 3) we can't say much, so we'll not show this bug report +</I>><i> 4) that's the package which has the bug +</I>><i> 5) we can't tell, that's a testing package. We can at least say : "the current version in core/backports has the following bugs, maybe this testing package fixes them ? Please consult the following bug reports and test" +</I>><i> 6) we can't tell, but it's interesting to mention that the package in 4) has the bug, they may be related +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I>><i> +</I> +This thread is about bugzilla configuration and setup not mageia-app-db... + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001865.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001876.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1874">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1874">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1874">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1874">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001875.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001875.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4df0a0800 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001875.html @@ -0,0 +1,108 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C20101223194414.GD2660%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001879.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001878.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla</H1> + <B>Michael scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C20101223194414.GD2660%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 23 20:44:14 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001879.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001878.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1875">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1875">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1875">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1875">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:34:35PM +0100, Samuel Verschelde wrote: +><i> Le mercredi 22 décembre 2010 21:25:39, Michael scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 01:55:02PM +0100, Frederic Janssens wrote: +</I>><i> > > On 2010-12-22, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > > > Le mercredi 22 décembre 2010 à 00:32 +0100, Frederic Janssens a écrit : +</I>><i> > > On <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/">https://qa.mandriva.com/</A> anything goes. +</I>><i> > > To permit consistent searches I think we should standardise. +</I>><i> > > The aim would to be to as specific as needed but not more; +</I>><i> > > as far as I know that would be : +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > name-version-release +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > unless the bug is architecture specific, where we would have : +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > name-version-release.architecture +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > There is already a "architecture" field, afaik, as well as a version field, +</I>><i> > no ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > ( I didn't check as I refuse to enter my password over a insecured http session ). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > And I think that giving rpm ( and not srpm ) will make search a little bit complex +</I>><i> > in some corner cases ( can will also cause problem for the next point ). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So you think the (S)RPM field should only contain SRPM filenames ? +</I> +No, just the srpm name. +At least from a data point of view. + +><i> If yes, I agree with that, because as Frederic stated above, in current +</I>><i> Mandriva bugzilla, there's no enforced rule for that. You can put +</I>><i> anything in the field, and you often end up with rpm filenames, or +</I>><i> simple package names (e.g. "virtualbox"). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> However asking bug reporters to know the SRPM is too much, so this rule +</I>><i> can only be enforced on Packagers and Triage Team side I think. This is +</I>><i> already how it works on qa.mandriva.com : if you know the SRPM, you put +</I>><i> it, if not someone will triage and do it for you. +</I> +Well, that's more a UI question, and so it should be decoralated from the +way we store data in the DB. ( now, it may be hard to achieve, but I am sure +that templates + ajax could do miracle, like "enter the name of rpm here" and +have it searched with js to fill the proper input ). + +-- +Michael Scherer +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001879.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001878.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1875">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1875">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1875">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1875">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001876.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001876.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..53c32641d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001876.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C201012232039.15588.stormi%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001874.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001877.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla</H1> + <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C201012232039.15588.stormi%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla">stormi at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 23 20:39:15 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001874.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001877.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1876">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1876">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1876">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1876">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le jeudi 23 décembre 2010 15:29:15, Ahmad Samir a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> On 23 December 2010 01:43, Samuel Verschelde <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > In fact I think Frederic was talking about several versions of the same package, not necessarily several versions of the distribution. However, I don't think we can or should ask people to write down every package version which has the bug. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > We can guess many things automatically, provided the information is of good quality (the RPM/SRPM field always has a complete filename in it, and all affected versions of the distribution are flagged, whatever the way used for that : multivalue field when it'll be possible, whiteboard meanwhile...). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > For those who don't wan't to read everything, example 1 may be enough, I'm just trying to cover several cases, not that every case brings something really important to the discussion. My point in those examples is that we can provide useful information regarding bugs on packages in software managers or mageia-app-db, but that depends on the information present in the bug reports, that's what I'd like this to be taken into account in bug handling processes. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > [...] +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This thread is about bugzilla configuration and setup not mageia-app-db... +</I>><i> +</I> +I'm quite puzzled by this answer. I was talking about the impacts of bugzilla configuration on what useful information we will be able to give to users outside of bugzilla. Apparently this is off-topic. + +Regards + +Samuel Verschelde +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001874.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001877.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1876">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1876">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1876">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1876">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001877.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001877.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..254873d32 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001877.html @@ -0,0 +1,124 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C20101223195121.GE2660%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001876.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001880.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla</H1> + <B>Michael scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C20101223195121.GE2660%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 23 20:51:21 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001876.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001880.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1877">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1877">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1877">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1877">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 12:43:23AM +0100, Samuel Verschelde wrote: +><i> Le mercredi 22 décembre 2010 20:34:18, Ahmad Samir a écrit : +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > On 22 December 2010 21:25, Frederic Janssens <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fjanss at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > > On 2010-12-22, Ahmad Samir <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > >> On 22 December 2010 18:37, Frederic Janssens <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fjanss at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > >>> On 2010-12-22, Ahmad Samir <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > >>>> On 22 December 2010 01:32, Frederic Janssens <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fjanss at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > >>>>> First I think it would be usefull to have a multiline (Large Text Box) +</I>><i> > >>>>> 'RPM Packages' field, instead of a single line (Free Text) field as +</I>><i> > >>>>> used by mandriva. +</I>><i> > >>>>> A single bug can concern more than one rpm. One thing mageia-app-db +</I>><i> > >>>>> will do is search all bugs affecting an rpm. For that search to be +</I>><i> > >>>>> meaningfull all affected rpms should be mentioned. +</I>><i> > >>>> +</I>><i> > >>>> 'One bug per report' is what we should do (did); if a bug originates +</I>><i> > >>>> from more than one package, a separate report for each of them should +</I>><i> > >>>> be opened with the Block/Dependency set correctly. +</I>><i> > >>> +</I>><i> > >>> Sorry for not beeing clear. +</I>><i> > >>> What I propose is not for the case 'a bug originates from more than +</I>><i> > >>> one package'; +</I>><i> > >>> but for the case 'a bug manifests itself in than one package'. +</I>><i> > >> +</I>><i> > >> A bug that manifests in more than one package must originate from +</I>><i> > >> 'some package', that 'some package' is the only one that should be in +</I>><i> > >> the 'RPM Package' field; i.e that's the package that's going to need +</I>><i> > >> fixing. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Sorry again, what I mean, and should have written, is : +</I>><i> > > 'a bug manifests itself in one package, but in more than one -version-release'. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > There's no way in bugzilla to do this at the moment (there's talk +</I>><i> > about this being implemented in bugzilla-4.0, which I haven't tried +</I>><i> > before). Traditionally the Whiteboard field was used for such issues +</I>><i> > (or separate reports were opened for each affected stable release). +</I>><i> > Having a multi-line RPM Package wouldn't be the way to go with this +</I>><i> > (IMHO). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In fact I think Frederic was talking about several versions of the same +</I>><i> package, not necessarily several versions of the distribution. However, +</I>><i> I don't think we can or should ask people to write down every package +</I>><i> version which has the bug. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We can guess many things automatically, provided the information is of +</I>><i> good quality (the RPM/SRPM field always has a complete filename in it, +</I>><i> and all affected versions of the distribution are flagged, whatever the +</I>><i> way used for that : multivalue field when it'll be possible, whiteboard meanwhile...). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For those who don't wan't to read everything, example 1 may be enough, +</I>><i> I'm just trying to cover several cases, not that every case brings +</I>><i> something really important to the discussion. My point in those examples +</I>><i> is that we can provide useful information regarding bugs on packages in +</I>><i> software managers or mageia-app-db, but that depends on the information +</I>><i> present in the bug reports, that's what I'd like this to be taken into +</I>><i> account in bug handling processes. +</I> +What about using the changelog for signalling what bug +have been closed ? + +Something like what is done by debian +<A HREF="http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/pkgs.html#upload-bugfix">http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/pkgs.html#upload-bugfix</A> + +-- +Michael Scherer +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001876.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001880.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1877">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1877">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1877">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1877">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001878.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001878.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8128a7661 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001878.html @@ -0,0 +1,113 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C201012232101.05410.stormi%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001875.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001881.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla</H1> + <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C201012232101.05410.stormi%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla">stormi at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 23 21:01:05 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001875.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001881.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1878">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1878">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1878">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1878">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le jeudi 23 décembre 2010 20:44:14, Michael scherer a écrit : +><i> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:34:35PM +0100, Samuel Verschelde wrote: +</I>><i> > Le mercredi 22 décembre 2010 21:25:39, Michael scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> > > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 01:55:02PM +0100, Frederic Janssens wrote: +</I>><i> > > > On 2010-12-22, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > > > > Le mercredi 22 décembre 2010 à 00:32 +0100, Frederic Janssens a +</I>écrit : +><i> > > > On <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/">https://qa.mandriva.com/</A> anything goes. +</I>><i> > > > To permit consistent searches I think we should standardise. +</I>><i> > > > The aim would to be to as specific as needed but not more; +</I>><i> > > > as far as I know that would be : +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > name-version-release +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > unless the bug is architecture specific, where we would have : +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > name-version-release.architecture +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > There is already a "architecture" field, afaik, as well as a version +</I>><i> > > field, no ? +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > ( I didn't check as I refuse to enter my password over a insecured http +</I>><i> > > session ). +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > And I think that giving rpm ( and not srpm ) will make search a little +</I>><i> > > bit complex in some corner cases ( can will also cause problem for the +</I>><i> > > next point ). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So you think the (S)RPM field should only contain SRPM filenames ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> No, just the srpm name. +</I>><i> At least from a data point of view. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > If yes, I agree with that, because as Frederic stated above, in current +</I>><i> > Mandriva bugzilla, there's no enforced rule for that. You can put +</I>><i> > anything in the field, and you often end up with rpm filenames, or +</I>><i> > simple package names (e.g. "virtualbox"). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > However asking bug reporters to know the SRPM is too much, so this rule +</I>><i> > can only be enforced on Packagers and Triage Team side I think. This is +</I>><i> > already how it works on qa.mandriva.com : if you know the SRPM, you put +</I>><i> > it, if not someone will triage and do it for you. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, that's more a UI question, and so it should be decoralated from the +</I>><i> way we store data in the DB. ( now, it may be hard to achieve, but I am +</I>><i> sure that templates + ajax could do miracle, like "enter the name of rpm +</I>><i> here" and have it searched with js to fill the proper input ). +</I> +I remember some years ago you could choose the exact version of the package +for which you reported a bug, from a list. I agree that improving the UI side +helpers could be useful. + +Regards + +Samuel Verschelde +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001875.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001881.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1878">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1878">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1878">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1878">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001879.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001879.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..79bc07edf --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001879.html @@ -0,0 +1,177 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C201012232110.19731.stormi%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001873.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001875.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla</H1> + <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C201012232110.19731.stormi%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla">stormi at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 23 21:10:19 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001873.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001875.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1879">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1879">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1879">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1879">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le jeudi 23 décembre 2010 15:25:10, Ahmad Samir a écrit : +><i> On 23 December 2010 00:34, Samuel Verschelde <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > Le mercredi 22 décembre 2010 21:25:39, Michael scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> >> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 01:55:02PM +0100, Frederic Janssens wrote: +</I>><i> >> > On 2010-12-22, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> >> > > Le mercredi 22 décembre 2010 à 00:32 +0100, Frederic Janssens a écrit +</I>:<i> +</I>><i> >> > >> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 17:07, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>> +</I>wrote: +><i> >> > >> > Le mardi 14 décembre 2010 à 17:05 +0100, Dexter Morgan a écrit : +</I>><i> >> > >> > > I would like to have your input to let us able to provide a +</I>><i> >> > >> > > bugzilla really soon +</I>><i> >> > >> > +</I>><i> >> > >> > So if I am not wrong, in bugzilla, we have : +</I>><i> >> > >> > - products +</I>><i> >> > >> > - component, contained in products +</I>><i> >> > >> > - and various field, per bug, +</I>><i> >> > >> > +</I>><i> >> > >> > and the way we organize everything will impact the layout. +</I>><i> >> > >> +</I>><i> >> > >> Yes. +</I>><i> >> > >> +</I>><i> >> > >> In preparation of the future interaction (by xmlrpc) between the +</I>><i> >> > >> mageia-app-db site and the mageia bugzilla, I have been testing +</I>><i> >> > >> <A HREF="http://bugs.mageia.org/">http://bugs.mageia.org/</A> . +</I>><i> >> > >> Xmlrpc works, but it will be necessary to configure additional +</I>><i> >> > >> fields. The minimum would be to add an 'RPM Package' field (such +</I>><i> >> > >> as exists on <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/">https://qa.mandriva.com/</A>). +</I>><i> >> > > +</I>><i> >> > > What about component not related to rpm ? +</I>><i> >> > +</I>><i> >> > The 'RPM Package' field would be left blank. +</I>><i> >> > (usually many fields are left blank) +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> That's quite useless clutter in this case :/ +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> > > And do you mean srpm or rpm ? +</I>><i> >> > +</I>><i> >> > On <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/">https://qa.mandriva.com/</A> anything goes. +</I>><i> >> > To permit consistent searches I think we should standardise. +</I>><i> >> > The aim would to be to as specific as needed but not more; +</I>><i> >> > as far as I know that would be : +</I>><i> >> > +</I>><i> >> > name-version-release +</I>><i> >> > +</I>><i> >> > unless the bug is architecture specific, where we would have : +</I>><i> >> > +</I>><i> >> > name-version-release.architecture +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> There is already a "architecture" field, afaik, as well as a version +</I>><i> >> field, no ? +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> ( I didn't check as I refuse to enter my password over a insecured http +</I>><i> >> session ). +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> And I think that giving rpm ( and not srpm ) will make search a little +</I>><i> >> bit complex in some corner cases ( can will also cause problem for the +</I>><i> >> next point ). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So you think the (S)RPM field should only contain SRPM filenames ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > If yes, I agree with that, because as Frederic stated above, in current +</I>><i> > Mandriva bugzilla, there's no enforced rule for that. You can put +</I>><i> > anything in the field, and you often end up with rpm filenames, or +</I>><i> > simple package names (e.g. "virtualbox"). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > However asking bug reporters to know the SRPM is too much, so this rule +</I>><i> > can only be enforced on Packagers and Triage Team side I think. This is +</I>><i> > already how it works on qa.mandriva.com : if you know the SRPM, you put +</I>><i> > it, if not someone will triage and do it for you. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Ahmad, would there be a problem in enforcing such a policy (i.e. SRPM +</I>><i> > field should be empty or contain a valid SRPM name ? Where valid means +</I>><i> > "looks like the name of a SRPM") ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Regards +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Samuel Verschelde +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Actually virtualbox is a valid enough SRPM name, because if you put +</I>><i> virtualbox in the "RPM Package" field bugzilla will auto-assign to the +</I>><i> package maintainer. And putting the arch. of the package in that field +</I>><i> isn't so useful, there's a separate Architecture field in each report. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> How do you wanna enforce this? by rejecting anything the user puts in +</I>><i> that field if it's not correct? well, I expect that we'll get less +</I>><i> reports this way, good from the triage team workload POV :), bad from +</I>><i> the POV that some important reports won't be filed because the user +</I>><i> doesn't understand what you want him to do. +</I> +By enforcing a policy, I don't mean necessarily rejecting bad or incomplete +values, but rather ensure that triagers and packagers take care of this field +and correct it if needed, at least for bugs on stable releases of Mageia. + +However misc's remarks about UI-side helpers (autocompletion for example, +which would propose only the valid package versions for a given package and a +given distribution version) could help here : if filling the field +comprehensively becomes easy then it won't be a barrier for unexperienced bug +reporters and then being stricter becomes possible. + + +><i> +</I>><i> I have no problem with having a report with a wrong content in the RPM +</I>><i> Package field, that can be fixed. So no, I am not OK with enforcing +</I>><i> anything here, just offering this as a guide line that it should be +</I>><i> 'kwrite-4.5.5-1mga' rather than just 'kwrite' or 'kwrite-4.5.5' is the +</I>><i> best you can hope for. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (IMHO, mageia-app-db should be more versatile in the way it searches +</I>><i> bug reports, note that almost at any given point in time there'll be +</I>><i> reports that haven't been triaged yet, and so can have an empty or a +</I>><i> wrong content in the RPM Package field) +</I> +We already plan to be as much versatile as we can be. However like I tried to +explain in my long off-topic post, we will have to cope with various levels of +quality of information and treat differently bugs concerning just "kwrite" and +bugs concerning "kwrite-4.5.5-1mga". + +Regards + +Samuel Verschelde +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001873.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001875.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1879">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1879">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1879">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1879">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001880.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001880.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a6367e60f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001880.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C201012232127.09922.stormi%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001877.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001866.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla</H1> + <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C201012232127.09922.stormi%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla">stormi at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 23 21:27:09 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001877.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001866.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1880">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1880">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1880">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1880">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le jeudi 23 décembre 2010 20:51:21, Michael scherer a écrit : +><i> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 12:43:23AM +0100, Samuel Verschelde wrote: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > We can guess many things automatically, provided the information is of +</I>><i> > good quality (the RPM/SRPM field always has a complete filename in it, +</I>><i> > and all affected versions of the distribution are flagged, whatever the +</I>><i> > way used for that : multivalue field when it'll be possible, whiteboard +</I>><i> > meanwhile...). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > For those who don't wan't to read everything, example 1 may be enough, +</I>><i> > I'm just trying to cover several cases, not that every case brings +</I>><i> > something really important to the discussion. My point in those examples +</I>><i> > is that we can provide useful information regarding bugs on packages in +</I>><i> > software managers or mageia-app-db, but that depends on the information +</I>><i> > present in the bug reports, that's what I'd like this to be taken into +</I>><i> > account in bug handling processes. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What about using the changelog for signalling what bug +</I>><i> have been closed ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Something like what is done by debian +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/pkgs.html#upload-bugfix">http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/pkgs.html#upload-bugfix</A> +</I> +That's interesting, indeed, even if I think we are more interested in what +bugs are still open rather than in what packages it was present previously. + +The main reason for that is that we only have the latests versions in the +repositories. Knowing which bugs they don't have anymore seems less important +than knowing which bugs they have now, but I may be wrong about this specific +user need. + +However I keep your suggestion somewhere in my mind :) + +Regards + +Samuel Verschelde +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001877.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001866.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1880">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1880">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1880">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1880">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001881.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001881.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..196cc5652 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001881.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DkKu%2Bngc6H-M1wAwnaSjsmx5TzZ%2BG9qiwWga6S%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001878.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001882.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DkKu%2Bngc6H-M1wAwnaSjsmx5TzZ%2BG9qiwWga6S%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 23 22:23:56 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001878.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001882.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1881">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1881">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1881">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1881">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 23 December 2010 22:01, Samuel Verschelde <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>> wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> I remember some years ago you could choose the exact version of the package +</I>><i> for which you reported a bug, from a list. I agree that improving the UI side +</I>><i> helpers could be useful. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I>><i> +</I> +As was said by dmorgan, listing each SRPM slowed down bugzilla a lot; +the distro has a lot of SRPMS... + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001878.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001882.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1881">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1881">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1881">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1881">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001882.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001882.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..91c25b34e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001882.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C201012232313.35263.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001881.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001883.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3C201012232313.35263.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 23 23:13:35 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001881.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001883.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1882">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1882">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1882">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1882">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op donderdag 23 december 2010 22:23:56 schreef Ahmad Samir: +><i> On 23 December 2010 22:01, Samuel Verschelde <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > I remember some years ago you could choose the exact version of the +</I>><i> > package for which you reported a bug, from a list. I agree that +</I>><i> > improving the UI side helpers could be useful. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Regards +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Samuel Verschelde +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As was said by dmorgan, listing each SRPM slowed down bugzilla a lot; +</I>><i> the distro has a lot of SRPMS... +</I> +an ajax search is better; it doesn't add much and only gets searched if you +enter at least 2 chars, or something like that. + +if such an ajax is wanted, i can write that if i can use app-mageia-db or +similar as a list. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001881.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001883.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1882">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1882">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1882">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1882">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001883.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001883.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..75bbbd721 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/001883.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikxPdjRObNrvHmVJyKU9jsZPP-EkodU7518p4HJ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001882.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20bugzilla&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikxPdjRObNrvHmVJyKU9jsZPP-EkodU7518p4HJ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Dec 23 23:22:45 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001882.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1883">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1883">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1883">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1883">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 24 December 2010 00:13, Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Op donderdag 23 december 2010 22:23:56 schreef Ahmad Samir: +</I>>><i> On 23 December 2010 22:01, Samuel Verschelde <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> > I remember some years ago you could choose the exact version of the +</I>>><i> > package for which you reported a bug, from a list. I agree that +</I>>><i> > improving the UI side helpers could be useful. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Regards +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Samuel Verschelde +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> As was said by dmorgan, listing each SRPM slowed down bugzilla a lot; +</I>>><i> the distro has a lot of SRPMS... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> an ajax search is better; it doesn't add much and only gets searched if you +</I>><i> enter at least 2 chars, or something like that. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> if such an ajax is wanted, i can write that if i can use app-mageia-db or +</I>><i> similar as a list. +</I>><i> +</I> +If the user doesn't know how to find the package info (rpm -q +packagname), no auto-complete is going to help much, he'll just pick +one of them randomly (top of the list, or bottom of the list). It's +not much to ask for rpm -q output... + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001882.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1883">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1883">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1883">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1883">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0a210ebb1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101223/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,142 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 23 December 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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