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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla</H1>
+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+ <I>Wed Dec 22 20:38:06 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On 22 December 2010 21:30, Renaud MICHEL &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On mercredi 22 d&#233;cembre 2010 at 18:46, Ahmad Samir wrote :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Sorry for not beeing clear.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; What I propose is not for the case 'a bug originates from more than
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; one package';
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; but for the case 'a bug manifests itself in than one package'.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A bug that manifests in more than one package must originate from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'some package', that 'some package' is the only one that should be in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the 'RPM Package' field; i.e that's the package that's going to need
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fixing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree, but that doesn't mean the user is able to identify the problematic
+</I>&gt;<i> package, even if he has good knowledge of the way packages work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Let's say for example that there is a problem with libxy, it is compiled
+</I>&gt;<i> with a bad combination of optimizations that make some of its functions
+</I>&gt;<i> behave randomly.
+</I>&gt;<i> appA appB and appC use libxy, but appC only use simple functions that are
+</I>&gt;<i> not affected by the optimization problem, so only appA and appB behave
+</I>&gt;<i> badly.
+</I>&gt;<i> Even if the user know about packages dependencies, as appC work fine he may
+</I>&gt;<i> not come to the conclusion that libxy is causing the problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> But he may still consider the problems with appA and appB to be related
+</I>&gt;<i> because they started at the same time (the latest update that included
+</I>&gt;<i> libxy).
+</I>&gt;<i> So if he can fill a single bug report for both appA and appB, that is a good
+</I>&gt;<i> hint to the developer that he should investigate in the dependencies those
+</I>&gt;<i> apps have in common.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So if you accept only one package per bug report, it may be harder to find
+</I>&gt;<i> the actual cause, as those two apps may be maintained by different people,
+</I>&gt;<i> each investigating the problem for his own app.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Renaud Michel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Sure, but there's strace and gdb crash backtraces, that's what devs
+use to find where a crash/bug happens, whether it's in their
+package/code or somewhere else.
+
+To be more clear it's &quot;one bug per report&quot;, that bug originates from a
+package, that's what gets to be put in the 'RPM Package' field; it's
+not unheard of that the 'RPM Package' field is changed through out the
+life cycle of a bug report.
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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