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Wilcox Jr. wrote: +><i>Consideration of software patents and copyrights does not constitute implicit +</I>><i>support for them. It does however constitute explicit support for obediance of +</I>><i>the law. Like it or not, patent and copyright laws do exist in some countries +</I>><i>(especially the U.S.A. - my home), and it is our responsibility to take those +</I>><i>laws into considertion (whether we want to or not). Laws can not be changed by +</I>><i>ignoring them, only broken. People who break laws are criminals - no ifs, +</I>><i>ands, or buts, about it. If the Mageia community chooses to opeate as a +</I>><i>criminal organization, I will have nothing to do with it. +</I>I don't agree on most of the above, and i believe the last sentence to be +offensive, but i will not retaliate lest it becomes a flame war. + +><i>We are discussing whether to accomodate software patent and copyright law in +</I>><i>countries where it exists. I can see no way to avoud doing so. We can include +</I>><i>patented software in our distribution if we choose to do so (and I think we +</I>><i>should), but we must provide both mirror hosts and end users (including me) a +</I>><i>method of easily excluding such software. By doing so, we give our users and +</I>><i>supporters the freedom to choose to obey the law where they live and still use +</I>><i>or support our distribution. +</I>The biggest problem is the variety of patent laws existing in the world, +besides the fact that patents are not granted worldwide, thus forcing +mageia to taint software that should not be under different +legislations. See the difference between fair-use clauses in laws about +circumvention devices. + +><i>As I see it, we already have a usable mirror lay-out (posted earlier in this +</I>><i>thread). The only real discussion that should remain is whether to include the +</I>><i>"tainted" branch in the official Mageia tree, or to offer it in an alternate +</I>><i>repository such as PLF (my earlier suggestion). +</I>I don't believe a separate repository would give any benefit, in any +case it would be software provided by mageia, and built on mageia +build-cluster. + +><i>In either case, I do not believe that ALL patented (or Copyrighted) software +</I>><i>should be placed there (in the "tainted" branch). Some such software comes +</I>><i>with explicit permission to use (perhaps nVidia and/or ATI drivers?). In other +</I>><i>cases, we may be able to contact the patent or copyright holder and get +</I>><i>explicit permission to include their software in our distribution. In such +</I>><i>cases, we should be able to safely (for both our users and supporters) include +</I>><i>the patented / copyrighted software with the official branch of our +</I>><i>distribution. +</I>Software with non-free license but permission to distribute should end +in non-free, software with a non-free license and no permission to +distribute should not be distributed. But this is a very different issue +from free-software possibly breaking some patent. Please do not mix the +two issues. + +L. + +-- +Luca Berra -- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bluca at vodka.it</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001721.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001726.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1722">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1722">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1722">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1722">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |