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But it then shows that it really makes sense to separate +</I>><i> issues per packaging media (so that end-users may decide on a +</I>><i> case-by-case basis), provided each issue is not valid worldwide, +</I>><i> neither uniformely. +</I>><i> +</I>PLF has a policy ( enforced by a rpmlint module and a check at upload, iirc ) +of explaining why a package is in plf, and let user decide. + +I think that is is quite important to know why a package is in such repositories, +and later, once we have a better view of what are the exact requirements of mirrors, +and if this is worth, we can find a more granular system ( ie, filtering for just +2 mirrors when we will already have many others do not seem like a wise idea ). + +And so basically, we have 2 groups : +Users and mirrors. +We push the responsability to users to decide what they want to install. +And for mirrors, we provide them with a simple system to decide. People +who do not care do not care. People who care would likely not spend +days checking every packages. + +><i> Putting everything under a "tainted" repository will just push the +</I>><i> problem one step aside. Putting issues separately helps having a clear +</I>><i> policy, per type of issue (because the problem is different). +</I> +Either we have 1 repository, or we have more. + +1 per global type of issue do not seem useful. For example, patents +are per country ( or group of country ), despites some efforts to global +harmonisation. The same apply to local laws ( DMCA, etc ). So saying +"everything patents related go there" do not help much, neither mirrors or +users. + +We could have one repository per country. But that would lead to +- have a explosion of combinaison ( germany-french-non-us-non-japan-etc ) +or +- duplicate the rpm in each country repository ( and having one +software being forbidden in one country would requires it to be present +on all others folder, so the growth is proportional to the number +of country on earth ). + +And in both case, we would need expert from each country to decide. While +it is already difficult for usual case, this would nearly impossible for +everything. But not doing so would render the classification useless. + +So I think that the easiest way is to have 1 repository, to explain why +packages are there, and later, once we found the ressources, to tag them, +if there is people ready to work on it. + +-- +Michael Scherer +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001701.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001710.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1707">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1707">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1707">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1707">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |