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+ <B>Dale Huckeby</B>
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+&gt;<i> the english language is pretty rich; and i suspect there are quite a few words
+</I>&gt;<i> that could convey the correct meaning without the word being too difficult.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> otoh, there is also the fact that &quot;free&quot; or &quot;core&quot; don't really convey the
+</I>&gt;<i> correct meaning at all either and could be quite dubious.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> patented would be more correct, but i don't wanna call it that, because then
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia would be sued by patent-lawyers all over the world. don't get me wrong,
+</I>&gt;<i> it wouldn't be illegal, but it would just be too timeconsuming...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> imho, we should have a simple not too difficult word that somehow shows a bit
+</I>&gt;<i> about the nature of the contents in it, while still being vague enough.
+</I>
+Okay, short words: iffy, chancy, dicey, knotty, clouded, foggy, hazy, unclear, contro (for controversial),
+prob (for problematic), equiv (for equivocal), irreg (for irregular). I like iffy best. It's short, it's
+informal, its meaning is clear, yet it's not too narrow.
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">spock at evansville.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the english language is pretty rich; and i suspect there are quite a few words
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that could convey the correct meaning without the word being too difficult.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> otoh, there is also the fact that &quot;free&quot; or &quot;core&quot; don't really convey the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> correct meaning at all either and could be quite dubious.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> patented would be more correct, but i don't wanna call it that, because then
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mageia would be sued by patent-lawyers all over the world. don't get me wrong,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it wouldn't be illegal, but it would just be too timeconsuming...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> imho, we should have a simple not too difficult word that somehow shows a bit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> about the nature of the contents in it, while still being vague enough.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Okay, short words: iffy, chancy, dicey, knotty, clouded, foggy, hazy,
+</I>&gt;<i> unclear, contro (for controversial),
+</I>&gt;<i> prob (for problematic), equiv (for equivocal), irreg (for irregular).
+</I>&gt;<i> I like iffy best. It's short, it's
+</I>&gt;<i> informal, its meaning is clear, yet it's not too narrow.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+Considering the other repo names to be used, we could always call this
+one &quot;other&quot;.
+
+--
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Perhaps we need an unrelated word that has meaning to Mageia, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> infers uniqueness without being pejorative.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I suggest calling it the &quot;paris&quot; repository, a place for unique and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> useful applications that cannot be placed in any other repository for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> whatever reason. Then perhaps any local repository of one-off packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> could always be labeled &quot;paris-local&quot; by default.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> after Paris Hilton? &quot;a place for unique and useful applications that cannot be
+</I>&gt;<i> placed in any other repository for whatever reason&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> sounds like a good comparison...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I was associating the richness and diversity of the &quot;City of Lights&quot;,
+but I like the way you think.
+
+
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+<PRE>Dale Huckeby a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the english language is pretty rich; and i suspect there are quite a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> few words
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that could convey the correct meaning without the word being too
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> difficult.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> otoh, there is also the fact that &quot;free&quot; or &quot;core&quot; don't really convey
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> correct meaning at all either and could be quite dubious.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> patented would be more correct, but i don't wanna call it that,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> because then
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mageia would be sued by patent-lawyers all over the world. don't get
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> me wrong,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it wouldn't be illegal, but it would just be too timeconsuming...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> imho, we should have a simple not too difficult word that somehow
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shows a bit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> about the nature of the contents in it, while still being vague enough.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Okay, short words: iffy, chancy, dicey, knotty, clouded, foggy, hazy,
+</I>&gt;<i> unclear, contro (for controversial),
+</I>&gt;<i> prob (for problematic), equiv (for equivocal), irreg (for irregular). I
+</I>&gt;<i> like iffy best. It's short, it's
+</I>&gt;<i> informal, its meaning is clear, yet it's not too narrow.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Dale Huckeby
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>great idea, abreviations !
+contro, irreg, and equiv are abreviations for words that don't question
+the quality.
+I like contro and irreg best.
+We can always give the full word in our documentation which explains the
+purpose of each repository.
+That would work.
+
+(BTW, when I think about it, iffy could be considered to refer to
+quality - but it's still way better than tainted.)
+
+Of course, there should be lots of other abreviations to choose from, if
+collectively we don't like one of these.
+
+- Andr&#233;
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+<PRE>Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Op zaterdag 04 december 2010 21:32:51 schreef andre999:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Dale Huckeby a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, 4 Dec 2010, andre999 wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> John a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 11:28:26 +0100
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 03 december 2010 10:45:05 schreef Ahmad Samir:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The kernel uses the word &quot;tainted&quot; when it detects the nvidia
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> proprietary module for example, (which admittedly gave me a bit of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shock the first time I saw it :)).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Heh, i had the same reaction.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> From all the proposed names, I think &quot;tainted&quot; is the best one, as
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packages in there are in a &quot;grey&quot; zone, i.e. not totally illegal
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> everywhere, but illegal only in some places in the world. And in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reality the existence of a patent doesn't necessarily mean it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> enforceable in a court of law (the only way we'd know for sure is if
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> someone actually does try to sue)... my 0.02&#8364; worth :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Generally only potentially &quot;illegal&quot; in some countries.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Tainted&quot; means contaminated, polluted. A lot stronger than
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> potentially &quot;illegal&quot;. (Really only actionable in a civil sense, not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> criminally illegal, as well.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> A package could end up there due to an apparently credible rumour,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> later discredited. (Anyone remember SCO ?)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I agree. Problematic comes closer to &quot;potentially illegal&quot;, so I looked
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> up some synonyms: ambiguous, debatable, dubious,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> iffy, suspect, speculative, precarious, suspicious, uncertain,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> unsettled, in addition to problematic itself. Personally
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I like iffy, which is both short and to the point, but I think several
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> of these would do. WDYT?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dale Huckeby
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A much better set of choices.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (Thanks for looking these up. Good idea.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Let's remember that the question for these packages is not the quality
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of their functioning - but rather the advisability to use them, for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other reasons, in some countries.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So I think that it is better to avoid words that could question the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> QUALITY of the packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Words in the list like
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ambiguous, debatable, problematic, and speculative
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> avoid questioning the quality ... but could be too long or too formal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Or just not catchy enough ;)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (&quot;Iffy&quot; might be ok - certainly catchy enough.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Additional words I found in Roget's thesaurus, along the same lines :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Associated more with debatable :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> arguable, contestable, controvertible, disputable, questionable,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Associated more with controversial :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> confutable, deniable, mistakable, moot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Of these additional words, I think that &quot;contestable&quot;, &quot;disputable&quot;, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;controversial&quot; are probably closest to the SENSE of the repositories.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But maybe too formal ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Many of these words could be good choices.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And maybe someone will come up with some more ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> my 2 cents :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Andr&#233;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i like speculative
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>That's not bad
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+&gt;<i> Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i like speculative
+</I>&gt;<i> That's not bad
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+I would prefer a very clear term, even if long, such as
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+with a patent, etc., How about &quot;non-GPL&quot;? I think that such a name should be
+well understood by users of nearly any language, particularly if they are
+familiar with the GPL.
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+My2cents
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+&gt;<i> With regard to the naming of the repository dediocated to software tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> with a patent, etc., How about &quot;non-GPL&quot;? I think that such a name should be
+</I>&gt;<i> well understood by users of nearly any language, particularly if they are
+</I>&gt;<i> familiar with the GPL.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My2cents
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.
+</I>&gt;<i> Registered Linux User 247790
+</I>&gt;<i> ICQ 41060744
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Read the afro-mentioned thread again; most of those stuff are released
+under a GPL/GPL-like license (faad and faac packages for example, for
+playing back and encoding using the AAC audio codec, respectively),
+they're free open source software, but they infringe some patents.
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> On 6 December 2010 09:29, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ewilcox at bex.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; With regard to the naming of the repository dediocated to software
+</I>&gt;<i> tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; with a patent, etc., How about &quot;non-GPL&quot;? I think that such a name should
+</I>&gt;<i> be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; well understood by users of nearly any language, particularly if they are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; familiar with the GPL.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; My2cents
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Registered Linux User 247790
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ICQ 41060744
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Read the afro-mentioned thread again; most of those stuff are released
+</I>&gt;<i> under a GPL/GPL-like license (faad and faac packages for example, for
+</I>&gt;<i> playing back and encoding using the AAC audio codec, respectively),
+</I>&gt;<i> they're free open source software, but they infringe some patents.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Why don't we call it universe or something like that? It's a neutral meaning
+where also packages without patents and such with patents can be stored in.
+
+--
+Mit freundlichen Gr&#252;&#223;en
+
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">daniel.kreuter85 at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 6 December 2010 09:29, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ewilcox at bex.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; With regard to the naming of the repository dediocated to software
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; tainted
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; with a patent, etc., How about &quot;non-GPL&quot;? I think that such a name
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; should be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; well understood by users of nearly any language, particularly if they
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; familiar with the GPL.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; My2cents
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Registered Linux User 247790
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; ICQ 41060744
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Read the afro-mentioned thread again; most of those stuff are released
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> under a GPL/GPL-like license (faad and faac packages for example, for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> playing back and encoding using the AAC audio codec, respectively),
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> they're free open source software, but they infringe some patents.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why don't we call it universe or something like that? It's a neutral meaning
+</I>&gt;<i> where also packages without patents and such with patents can be stored in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Mit freundlichen Gr&#252;&#223;en
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Greetings
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Daniel Kreuter
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Because Ubuntu already has a repo called &quot;universal&quot;? that's a similar
+reason to why it wasn't called &quot;restricted&quot;, because restricted is
+used by distros that offer a commercial repo as in &quot;pay to use some
+more stuff&quot;.
+
+--
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Because Ubuntu already has a repo called &quot;universal&quot;? that's a similar
+</I>&gt;<i> reason to why it wasn't called &quot;restricted&quot;, because restricted is
+</I>&gt;<i> used by distros that offer a commercial repo as in &quot;pay to use some
+</I>&gt;<i> more stuff&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Do they have a patent on the name?
+
+--
+Mit freundlichen Gr&#252;&#223;en
+
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Because Ubuntu already has a repo called &quot;universal&quot;? that's a similar
+</I>&gt;<i> reason to why it wasn't called &quot;restricted&quot;, because restricted is
+</I>&gt;<i> used by distros that offer a commercial repo as in &quot;pay to use some
+</I>&gt;<i> more stuff&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do they have a patent on the name?
+</I>
+No, but it will cause confusion among users if we use the same name for
+a different thing than they do.
+
+
+--
+Anssi Hannula
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+<PRE>Le lundi 06 d&#233;cembre 2010 &#224; 13:10 +0100, Daniel Kreuter a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Because Ubuntu already has a repo called &quot;universal&quot;? that's a similar
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; reason to why it wasn't called &quot;restricted&quot;, because restricted is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; used by distros that offer a commercial repo as in &quot;pay to use some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; more stuff&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ahmad Samir
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do they have a patent on the name?
+</I>
+
+Patents apply to technical invention. What could be used is trademark.
+
+And that's not the question, this is a basic usability issue, if a
+rather important portion of the users associate a word with something,
+this sound sane to no reuse the same word to hold a different meaning in
+a very similar context, or it will cause confusion.
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> And that's not the question, this is a basic usability issue, if a
+</I>&gt;<i> rather important portion of the users associate a word with something,
+</I>&gt;<i> this sound sane to no reuse the same word to hold a different meaning in
+</I>&gt;<i> a very similar context, or it will cause confusion.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Again, a good argument for a name with no conflicts and no negative
+meanings: &quot;paris&quot;.
+
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+via BitTorrent.
+
+That doesn't suit some people's situation.
+
+Will Mageia's .iso file be downloadable by non-BitTorrent protocols
+(e.g. FTP)?
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+&gt;<i> Mandriva has recently been showing their .iso file downloadable only
+</I>&gt;<i> via BitTorrent.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That doesn't suit some people's situation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Will Mageia's .iso file be downloadable by non-BitTorrent protocols
+</I>&gt;<i> (e.g. FTP)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Maybe we can tell you when we will have iso ready ... We have others
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+&gt;<i> Mandriva has recently been showing their .iso file downloadable only
+</I>&gt;<i> via BitTorrent.
+</I>
+Not true. Including current version it was/is available via BitTorrent
+AND FTP download from the mirrors.
+
+&gt;<i> Will Mageia's .iso file be &#160;downloadable by non-BitTorrent protocols
+</I>&gt;<i> (e.g. FTP)?
+</I>
+This is one of those very very premature questions and will be
+discussed/decided when the time comes (which is far away). But without
+punching on my crystal ball too hard I guess Alpha versions will come
+as ftp downloads while I'd say distributiing the final with torrents
+and ftp would be a good idea - takes the load off the servers.
+
+--
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+
+&gt;<i> 2010/12/6 Maurice Batey &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mandriva has recently been showing their .iso file downloadable only
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; via BitTorrent.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not true. Including current version it was/is available via BitTorrent
+</I>&gt;<i> AND FTP download from the mirrors.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Will Mageia's .iso file be downloadable by non-BitTorrent protocols
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (e.g. FTP)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is one of those very very premature questions and will be
+</I>&gt;<i> discussed/decided when the time comes (which is far away). But without
+</I>&gt;<i> punching on my crystal ball too hard I guess Alpha versions will come
+</I>&gt;<i> as ftp downloads while I'd say distributiing the final with torrents
+</I>&gt;<i> and ftp would be a good idea - takes the load off the servers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I was downloading the latest version of Mandriva via ftp so it is still
+available as wobo mentioned above.
+
+--
+Mit freundlichen Gr&#252;&#223;en
+
+Greetings
+
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/12/6 Maurice Batey &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>&gt;&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mandriva has recently been showing their .iso file downloadable only
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; via BitTorrent.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not true. Including current version it was/is available via BitTorrent
+</I>&gt;<i> AND FTP download from the mirrors.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Will Mageia's .iso file be downloadable by non-BitTorrent protocols
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (e.g. FTP)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is one of those very very premature questions and will be
+</I>&gt;<i> discussed/decided when the time comes (which is far away). But without
+</I>&gt;<i> punching on my crystal ball too hard I guess Alpha versions will come
+</I>&gt;<i> as ftp downloads while I'd say distributiing the final with torrents
+</I>&gt;<i> and ftp would be a good idea - takes the load off the servers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was downloading the latest version of Mandriva via ftp so it is
+</I>&gt;<i> still available as wobo mentioned above.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Mit freundlichen Gr&#252;&#223;en
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Greetings
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Daniel Kreuter
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+link: <A HREF="http://www2.mandriva.com/downloads/free/">http://www2.mandriva.com/downloads/free/</A>
+
+direct downloads are available....
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/12/6 Maurice Batey &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>&gt;&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mandriva has recently been showing their .iso file downloadable only
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; via BitTorrent.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not true. Including current version it was/is available via BitTorrent
+</I>&gt;<i> AND FTP download from the mirrors.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Will Mageia's .iso file be downloadable by non-BitTorrent protocols
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (e.g. FTP)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is one of those very very premature questions and will be
+</I>&gt;<i> discussed/decided when the time comes (which is far away). But without
+</I>&gt;<i> punching on my crystal ball too hard I guess Alpha versions will come
+</I>&gt;<i> as ftp downloads while I'd say distributiing the final with torrents
+</I>&gt;<i> and ftp would be a good idea - takes the load off the servers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was downloading the latest version of Mandriva via ftp so it is
+</I>&gt;<i> still available as wobo mentioned above.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Mit freundlichen Gr&#252;&#223;en
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Greetings
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Daniel Kreuter
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>link: <A HREF="http://www2.mandriva.com/downloads/free/">http://www2.mandriva.com/downloads/free/</A>
+has a direct download link'
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+&gt;<i> On 12/6/2010 12:55 PM, Oliver Burger wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could you please NOT write HTML mails using full quotes?
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+</I>&gt;<i> was accident....
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And that's not the question, this is a basic usability issue, if a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rather important portion of the users associate a word with something,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this sound sane to no reuse the same word to hold a different meaning in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; a very similar context, or it will cause confusion.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Again, a good argument for a name with no conflicts and no negative
+</I>&gt;<i> meanings: &quot;paris&quot;.
+</I>
+no negative meaning???
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+Paris Hilton anyone???
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+afaik any word has negative meaning...
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+&gt;<i> Op maandag 06 december 2010 16:30:00 schreef Hoyt Duff:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Again, a good argument for a name with no conflicts and no negative
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> meanings: &quot;paris&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> no negative meaning???
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Paris Hilton anyone???
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hoyt is obviously not a subscriber to &quot;The Reg&quot; :-)
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+<PRE>On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Maarten Vanraes
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> no negative meaning???
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Paris Hilton anyone???
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> afaik any word has negative meaning...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Snooki makes her look like a nun.
+
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Polizzi">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Polizzi</A>
+
+--
+Hoyt
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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+<PRE>Op maandag 06 december 2010 22:57:23 schreef Hoyt Duff:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Maarten Vanraes
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; no negative meaning???
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Paris Hilton anyone???
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; afaik any word has negative meaning...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Snooki makes her look like a nun.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Polizzi">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Polizzi</A>
+</I>
+seriously? with PH flashing not wearing underwear, flashing her privates
+publicly, doing porn?
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+ <B>Nex6</B>
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+<PRE>On 12/6/2010 2:13 PM, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+&gt;<i> Op maandag 06 december 2010 22:57:23 schreef Hoyt Duff:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Maarten Vanraes
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> no negative meaning???
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Paris Hilton anyone???
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> afaik any word has negative meaning...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Snooki makes her look like a nun.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Polizzi">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Polizzi</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> seriously? with PH flashing not wearing underwear, flashing her privates
+</I>&gt;<i> publicly, doing porn?
+</I>
+I personally would not be against using a naming convention from Debian,
+ubuntu or fedora.
+
+in that, people coming from those distros would 'know' what things mean.
+
+
+
+-Nex6
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+<I>Sam Bailey
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+<I>Hoyt Duff
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+<I>Hoyt Duff
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+<LI><A HREF="001641.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
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+<I>Frank Griffin
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+<I>Dale Huckeby
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+<I>Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.
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+<I>Daniel Kreuter
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+<I>Sam Bailey
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+<I>Hoyt Duff
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+<LI><A HREF="001620.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
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+<I>andre999
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+<I>andre999
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+<LI><A HREF="001622.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
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+<I>David W. Hodgins
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+<LI><A HREF="001623.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
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+<I>Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.
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+<LI><A HREF="001624.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
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+<I>Ahmad Samir
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+<LI><A HREF="001625.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
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+<I>Daniel Kreuter
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+<LI><A HREF="001626.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
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+<I>Ahmad Samir
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+<LI><A HREF="001627.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
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+<I>Daniel Kreuter
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+<LI><A HREF="001628.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
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+<I>Anssi Hannula
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+<LI><A HREF="001629.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
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+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001630.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
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+<I>Cazzaniga Sandro
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+<I>Ahmad Samir
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+<I>Maarten Vanraes
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+<I>Frank Griffin
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+<LI><A HREF="001642.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
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+
+<LI><A HREF="001643.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
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+
+<LI><A HREF="001644.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nex6
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+ <h1>6 December 2010 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Dec 6 00:39:08 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Dec 6 23:30:39 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 28<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001633.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...
+</A><A NAME="1633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001634.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...
+</A><A NAME="1634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001637.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...
+</A><A NAME="1637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001639.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...
+</A><A NAME="1639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001631.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...
+</A><A NAME="1631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001632.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...
+</A><A NAME="1632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cazzaniga Sandro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001635.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...
+</A><A NAME="1635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nex6
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001636.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...
+</A><A NAME="1636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nex6
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001638.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...
+</A><A NAME="1638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nex6
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001617.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001618.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sam Bailey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001619.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001620.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001621.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001622.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001623.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001624.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001625.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001626.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001627.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001628.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001629.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001630.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001640.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001641.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001642.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001643.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001644.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nex6
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Dec 6 23:30:39 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Dec 6 23:30:52 CET 2010</i>
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+ <h1>6 December 2010 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Dec 6 00:39:08 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Dec 6 23:30:39 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 28<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01291592348- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001617.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01291592348-01291598836- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001618.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sam Bailey
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01291592348-01291611612- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001620.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01291601675- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001619.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01291611741- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001621.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01291611741-01291614842- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001622.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01291620598- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001623.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01291620598-01291627520- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001624.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01291620598-01291627520-01291631875- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001625.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01291620598-01291627520-01291631875-01291637068- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001626.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01291620598-01291627520-01291631875-01291637068-01291637416- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001627.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01291620598-01291627520-01291631875-01291637068-01291637416-01291639331- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001628.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01291620598-01291627520-01291631875-01291637068-01291637416-01291639417- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001629.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01291620598-01291627520-01291631875-01291637068-01291637416-01291639417-01291649400- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001630.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01291620598-01291627520-01291631875-01291637068-01291637416-01291639417-01291649400-01291671239- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001640.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01291620598-01291627520-01291631875-01291637068-01291637416-01291639417-01291649400-01291671239-01291671645- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001641.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01291620598-01291627520-01291631875-01291637068-01291637416-01291639417-01291649400-01291671239-01291672643- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001642.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01291620598-01291627520-01291631875-01291637068-01291637416-01291639417-01291649400-01291671239-01291672643-01291673622- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001643.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01291620598-01291627520-01291631875-01291637068-01291637416-01291639417-01291649400-01291671239-01291672643-01291673622-01291674639- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001644.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two
+</A><A NAME="1644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nex6
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01291652792- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001631.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...
+</A><A NAME="1631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01291652792-01291653320- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001632.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...
+</A><A NAME="1632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cazzaniga Sandro
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01291652792-01291653386- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001633.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...
+</A><A NAME="1633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01291652792-01291653386-01291653547- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001634.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...
+</A><A NAME="1634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01291652792-01291653386-01291653547-01291668044- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001635.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...
+</A><A NAME="1635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nex6
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01291652792-01291653386-01291653547-01291668279- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001636.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...
+</A><A NAME="1636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nex6
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01291652792-01291653386-01291653547-01291668279-01291668945- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001637.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...
+</A><A NAME="1637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01291652792-01291653386-01291653547-01291668279-01291668945-01291669215- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001638.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...
+</A><A NAME="1638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nex6
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01291652792-01291653386-01291653547-01291668279-01291668945-01291669215-01291669450- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001639.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...
+</A><A NAME="1639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Dec 6 23:30:39 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Dec 6 23:30:52 CET 2010</i>
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