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But don't keep repeating +</I>><i> > that there's not clear drawbacks, that the cost of creating new +</I>><i> > repositories is almost nil and this kind of thing if you don't have +</I>><i> > any real arguments. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> Well you can insist that the mentioned drawbacks are significant, but if +</I>><i> you follow my arguments, you will see that I explain why I don't believe +</I>><i> they are. +</I> +I would be more inclined to trust boklm's technical judgement, who is in +charge of setting up the Mageia BS, who proposed several improvement on +it ( uid splitting, etc ), who worked since several years as a packager, +build system and cluster admin at Mandriva. + +><i> And I'm not the only one with this point of view. +</I> +Not being alone doesn't mean that's a good idea. For example +all lemmings that think that mass suicide are not alone. + +><i> It is useful to take a global point of view, with all the factors involved. +</I> +Well, yes, and we think we did it. You know, we worked on a distribution +since some time. So we have a global point of view. + +><i> As well, some supposed costs make assumptions that we will do things the +</I>><i> same way as Mandriva. But I have presented a different way of doing +</I>><i> things, which wouldn't necessarily entail such costs. +</I> +You have presented exactly the same system as Mandriva. That's not what +I call "different". + + +><i> So you like to say that I don't have any real arguments. +</I>><i> Well I'd say that much of misc's arguments in that post don't hold if we +</I>><i> do things in a different way. +</I>><i> [..] +</I>><i> In other posts, misc's arguments conform +</I>><i> with my point of view. +</I> +What you achieved is the demonstration about the emptiness of saying +"misc's argument" without refering to the arguments you are speaking of. + +Next time, can you be more precise and say "$FOO do not hold because +of .., while $BAR is in favor of my idea" with $FOO and $BAR being the +actual arguments so we can at least understand ? + +I would also request you to refrain from using my nickname for doing +such name dropping in the future. + +><i> By the way, I'm *not* proposing creating *new* repositories. I'm +</I>><i> proposing *not removing* some existing repositories, and doing certain +</I>><i> things in a different way. +</I> +We propose to remove existing repositories precisely because we know +what problem this create to keep the existing system. And we know +because we faced them. This is based on our experiences as long time +packagers and distribution admins. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001528.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001529.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1535">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1535">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1535">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1535">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |