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However, i do +</I>><i> understand that some people would not want to install firmware, but i think we +</I>><i> should do this in another way, (like installing a meta package that enforces +</I>><i> some limits.) +</I>><i> codecs seem odd to be separate, if they have patented problems they should go +</I>><i> in non_free, if no problem, they can go in core. +</I>><i> +</I> +That is doable. +The reason for having it separate was because its the most "problematic" +one. (codecs have more issues than firmware) + +><i> B) if they are separate, they would need updates, backports, testing, ... (i +</I>><i> expect non_free does too?) +</I>><i> +</I> +Yep. +as noted in the other post, the layout under /core/ is duplicated under +all other medias... + +><i> C) if they are separate, they cannot be disabled by default, some stuff is +</I>><i> needed for stuff to work. +</I>><i> +</I> +So installer could ask "in order to fully support your hw you need ..., +do you want to enable firmware repo..." and explain the reason for +free/libre... + +><i> D) i have questions about noarch packages, will they be installed on both +</I>><i> trees? and if we have more archs later on, more and more? this seems a waste; +</I>><i> except if we could hardlink them somehow. if not, we should just put them +</I>><i> somewhere separate. +</I>><i> +</I> +We hardlink them already. +But yeah, I'd like a separate noarch too, but some people disagree, so I +didnt add it to this proposal. + +><i> E) i understand games to be separate, but disabled by default?, i'm not sure i +</I>><i> agree with that. (we need to remember our target audience; stuff needs to work +</I>><i> out-of the box) +</I> +I was thinking of a feature in the installer, if you select games, it +would enable the repo by default, otherwise keep it disabled. + +><i> F) what is backports_testing? why can't that just be testing? +</I> +Versioning problem... on mirrors / BS +we have testing -> updates route, +so this would be backports_testing -> backports, + +Because if you have this: +core/release v 1.2.0-1 +core/testing v 1.3.0-1 (intended for backports) + +then you cant upload a bugfix v 1.2.0-1.1 to core/testing as there is +already a bigger version in testing... + +-- +Thomas + + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001440.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001443.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1442">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1442">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1442">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1442">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |