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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+ <I>Sat Nov 27 00:00:55 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Renaud MICHEL skrev 26.11.2010 23:43:
+&gt;<i> On vendredi 26 novembre 2010 at 21:29, Thomas Backlund wrote :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Then we come to the &quot;problematic&quot; part:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ------
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> media
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> codecs (disabled by default)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> core (old main+contrib)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> backports (disabled by default)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> backports_testing (disabled by default)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> testing (disabled by default)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> updates
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> extra (unmaintained, disabled by default)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> firmware (disabled by default)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> games (disabled by default)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> non-free (disabled by default)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /debug_*/ (disabled by default)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -----
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The idea of this layout with some of the separate sections (codecs,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> firmware, games, non-free, debug_*) gives a mirror maintainer in a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> country (or company) the option to exclude the parts they legally (or by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> company policy) can not mirror.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The &quot;core&quot; should be only maintained free/libre stuff so it's easy to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> build a free/libre iso
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;extra&quot; is for those packages that no-one really maintain, but is still
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> used by someone
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;games&quot; are now a separate repo since it can grow fast with a lot of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> game data.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it is a good layout, but, are updates/backports(testing) limited to
+</I>&gt;<i> core?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+nope, the same layout:
+backports (disabled by default)
+backports_testing (disabled by default)
+release
+testing (disabled by default)
+updates
+
+should be under codecs, extra, firmware, games, non-free, debug_*
+in order to provide consistency betwen medias.
+I just left them out because they was supposed to be the same for all.
+
+&gt;<i> As you mentioned, extra has no reason to have updates or backports, because
+</I>&gt;<i> if someone did bother to make updates, then the package doesn't belong in
+</I>&gt;<i> extra.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yeah, but for a stable release, we dont move packages...
+
+the /release/ must stay frozen.
+
+&gt;<i> For games it would surely be appreciated to have new versions, so maybe a
+</I>&gt;<i> only a games/updates media which could also be used as a backport media (as
+</I>&gt;<i> games are not critical).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+To simplify for all users, the medias should be used in the same way.
+
+&gt;<i> For non-free we would probably want also updates and backports, like in
+</I>&gt;<i> current mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+yep.
+
+&gt;<i> Now for firmware and codecs I don't know, are there updates for firmwares?
+</I>
+Not often, but sometimes there are firmwares that get bugfixes, so the
+same rule apply.
+
+&gt;<i> Maybe they should be in sync with kernel updates (or external modules)?
+</I>
+They must of course stay compatible with the kernel.
+
+&gt;<i> As for codecs, will it contain anything that could be covered by patents,
+</I>&gt;<i> like PLF for mandriva?
+</I>&gt;<i> Does that mean we will still have a stripped down mplayer/xine in core and a
+</I>&gt;<i> full version in codecs?
+</I>
+This is one of the tricky ones...
+
+&gt;<i> But if it is only disabled and you only need to activate it in the control
+</I>&gt;<i> center to have full featured multimedia programs, it is no big deal, and if
+</I>&gt;<i> it makes life easier for people whose countries have restrictive law then
+</I>&gt;<i> we should go for it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That was the idea.
+
+&gt;<i> We should probably have a clear rule to decide what cannot go in core and
+</I>&gt;<i> should in non-free (that on is pretty clear already) codecs or firmware.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+yep.
+
+&gt;<i> I hope we will soon get to the point where we will actually put packages in
+</I>&gt;<i> those repositories :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+we are getting closer...
+
+--
+Thomas
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