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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 18:11, Maarten Vanraes
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> if people keep in mind that sometimes tarballs aren't always fetchable from
+</I>&gt;<i> the internetz; then i'm ok with this. also, possibly if the tar is the same as
+</I>&gt;<i> the previous version/revision, it could even be fetched from the older
+</I>&gt;<i> packages/releases
+</I>
+Removing it from svn does not mean no longer hosting it, but svn is
+not appropriate to keep history of all versions of tarball that have
+once existed in cooker
+
+One solution can be for example
+- Storing the tarballs matching svn head on a ftp if the src.rpm is
+not yet available
+- Having the tool that checkouts from svn to also download src.rpm and
+extract tarball from there, looking on the ftp if there is not yet a
+src.rpm for that version
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+    <B>Bruno Cornec</B> 
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+<PRE>Pascal Terjan said on Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 04:10:30PM +0000:
+
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 18:11, Maarten Vanraes
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; if people keep in mind that sometimes tarballs aren't always fetchable from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the internetz; then i'm ok with this. also, possibly if the tar is the same as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the previous version/revision, it could even be fetched from the older
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages/releases
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Removing it from svn does not mean no longer hosting it, but svn is
+</I>&gt;<i> not appropriate to keep history of all versions of tarball that have
+</I>&gt;<i> once existed in cooker
+</I>
+That was exactly my original point.
+
+&gt;<i> One solution can be for example
+</I>&gt;<i> - Storing the tarballs matching svn head on a ftp if the src.rpm is
+</I>&gt;<i> not yet available
+</I>&gt;<i> - Having the tool that checkouts from svn to also download src.rpm and
+</I>&gt;<i> extract tarball from there, looking on the ftp if there is not yet a
+</I>&gt;<i> src.rpm for that version
+</I>
+Yes, that's one approach indeed. 
+What is needed IMHO is:
+for a maintainer to have the tgz (from a flat repo, ftp/http/smb/...) 
++patches in VCS (SVN, Git, ...) + SPEC in VCS (SVN, Git, ...).
+mdvsys would just push what is in VCS.
+The BS should also have the same pointer to the same tgz (checksum
+verified to be sure e.g. - and kept somewhere for history, compliance,
+...reasons)) and to the SVN content.
+
+Bruno.
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